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    No cross over between anti-abortion activism and white nationalism, no sir. That's just crazy talk and assumptions.

    Anti-abortion groups are distancing themselves from a prominent writer, activist and thought leader in the movement who has leaned into white nationalism since Donald Trump’s election.
    Kristen Walker Hatten, former vice president of the anti-abortion group New Wave Feminists and a contributor to The Dallas Morning News, has spoken at universities and events around the country about the need for mainstream feminism to embrace women who oppose abortion rights. She has written articles for Live Action News, the organization behind the heavily edited “sting” videos that inspired Republicans in Congress to investigate Planned Parenthood, and gained media attention in early 2017 when New Wave Feminists was ousted from a partnership with the Women’s March.

    Hatten wrote in late 2016 that she found Trump to be so “creepy, gross and tacky” and such a “repugnant chauvinist” during his campaign that she quit the internet for a while to avoid reading about him. But after he won, something changed. Hatten began sharing white supremacist content on social media. She self-identified on Twitter as alt-right and “ethnonationalist” ― the same term used by white nationalist icon Richard Spencer. She mused on Facebook that immigrant “invaders” are replacing white Europeans in their own countries, and shared a post imploring Trump to grant “asylum” to white South Africans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farealmer View Post
    How is it that everyone on the conservative side in these threads ends up becoming the very boogeyman they claim are made up by the left? Like I have followed this since before the 2016 election and I can't think of a single instance of a conservative coming in here to debate you guys about misconceptions of the right that didn't end up backing those very things when push came to shove. It's surreal...
    It's simple, most "modern conservatives" simply regurgitate talking points without bring anything new table. Intellectual conservatism is on the decline and what we see more and more of these days is people that are simply threatened by minorities and women and immigrants lashing out a changing environment.

    What's happened in the US is that conservatives are bringing back talking years and probably decades old talking points without addressing issues directly in front of them in a logical manner. It's just the same old thing with these guys- lower taxes for the rich, oppose any and all form of social progress, treat and label immigrants as "monsters" and try to whip up racist sentiment against them, oppose gun control (of any kind), oppose abortion e.t.c. There's a reason why the GOP has only won the popular vote just once in Presidential elections in the last 20 years or so.

    It was something that Andrew Neil brought up in his discussion with Ben Shapiro (which showed how shallow Shapiro is), the left has brought up so many ideas that are actually relevant to a changing world as opposed to the conservatives that are seemingly opposed to everything without any relevant solution.
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    Just saw this item on Facebook which illustrates to perfection the irony, and hypocrisy of the madness that's vomited out of Alabama:

    "White Alabama men are fighting for the rights of a bunch of cells inside a woman's uterus. But, if those cells turn out to be gay, lesbian, bi, trans, a woman, black, brown, Muslim....suddenly they won't fight for them, they will literally fight against them. Insanity."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaw View Post
    I’d suggest that “compromise” on abortion law must be possible..because it’s exactly what happens in most countries that allow abortion.

    Does any country really give mother unlimited freedom to women to terminate at any point up to point of birth??

    In UK for example..the termination rights of the mother depend on the age of the foetus...after 24 weeks abortion can only proceed in exceptional circumstances.
    That's already the way it works here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaw View Post
    I’d suggest that “compromise” on abortion law must be possible..because it’s exactly what happens in most countries that allow abortion.

    Does any country really give mother unlimited freedom to women to terminate at any point up to point of birth??

    In UK for example..the termination rights of the mother depend on the age of the foetus...after 24 weeks abortion can only proceed in exceptional circumstances.
    That’s exactly what we have here and no anti abortion activists view it as a compromise. They view it as a total loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Just saw this item on Facebook which illustrates to perfection the irony, and hypocrisy of the madness that's vomited out of Alabama:

    "White Alabama men are fighting for the rights of a bunch of cells inside a woman's uterus. But, if those cells turn out to be gay, lesbian, bi, trans, a woman, black, brown, Muslim....suddenly they won't fight for them, they will literally fight against them. Insanity."
    The reality is that it's eugenics. That goes back to the Civil War when the South refused to stop owning people. You couple that with the war on terror and the Mexican immigration of early 2000's, you got a clear picture for the current crop of White Nationalists and politicians.
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    I know she's not gonna get the nom, but I like Tulsi more and more each day.

    I think Warran and Harris are still my frontrunners.

    Also, I'm not generally in on piling on other dem candidates, even if I'm not stoked on them, but Samantha Bee's recent bit about Biden was hilarious. The part where he's describing in great detail some cartoon...it's like the most rambling old guy thing I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieHavoc View Post
    I know she's not gonna get the nom, but I like Tulsi more and more each day.

    I think Warran and Harris are still my frontrunners.

    Also, I'm not generally in on piling on other dem candidates, even if I'm not stoked on them, but Samantha Bee's recent bit about Biden was hilarious. The part where he's describing in great detail some cartoon...it's like the most rambling old guy thing I've ever seen.
    I think we all love piling on Ranger Joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    It's simple, most "modern conservatives" simply regurgitate talking points without bring anything new table. Intellectual conservatism is on the decline and what we see more and more of these days is people that are simply threatened by minorities and women and immigrants lashing out a changing environment.
    A lot like what you just did with that statement. The default argument no matter what a conservative says goes something like "you're threatened by minorities and women and immigrants". Every conversation turns into some kind grand conspiracy by "the system" to keep racism alive and well in the US. Unbelievably hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohnooze View Post
    A lot like what you just did with that statement. The default argument no matter what a conservative says goes something like "your threatened by minorities and women and immigrants". Every conversation turns into some kind grand conspiracy by "the system" to keep racism alive and well in the US. Unbelievably hypocritical.
    "All a hypocritical liberal conspiracy theory"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    "All a hypocritical liberal conspiracy theory"

    *YAWN*

    Have we got bingo yet ?
    Never said it was all a "All a hypocritical liberal conspiracy theory". My point was that is exactly what liberals do and it's a hypocritical statement. Thanks for helping me make the point by adding nothing and twisting my meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohnooze View Post
    A lot like what you just did with that statement. The default argument no matter what a conservative says goes something like "you're threatened by minorities and women and immigrants". Every conversation turns into some kind grand conspiracy by "the system" to keep racism alive and well in the US. Unbelievably hypocritical.
    Jetengine just replied you perfectly.

    Like, what else is new?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    Jetengine just replied you perfectly.

    Like, what else is new?
    Jetengine said nothing. You guys complain about conservatives not listening but you're the exact same way. You dismiss every argument with some kind of bigotry accusation instated of trying to see it from their point of view then complain about how close minded they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohnooze View Post
    Jetengine said nothing. You guys complain about conservatives not listening but you're the exact same way. You dismiss every argument with some kind of bigotry accusation instated of trying to see it from their point of view then complain about how close minded they are.
    What point of view? Like seriously.

    When science is ignored, when peoples choices are squashed, when it runs back constantly to "Well my big buisness interests are the real issue" etc people start to get pissed off.

    We have tons of liberals arguing in this thread over what each candidate has done in their career and whether that makes then actually good enough. Meanwhile Conservatives vote for anyone no matter how damaging it is to themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohnooze View Post
    Jetengine said nothing. You guys complain about conservatives not listening but you're the exact same way. You dismiss every argument with some kind of bigotry accusation instated of trying to see it from their point of view then complain about how close minded they are.
    Not at all -- after you said "everyone" forces their views on others, I asked you what "view" I had tried to force on you and then pointed out that it's religious people who tend to do this (the Inquistion, the Crusades, Manifest Destiny, witch burnings, abortion, etc) which is why many are wary of "conservative religious" thought.

    Some even try to force their will on others to the point where they will even threaten or shoot up the clinics providing abortions -- why shouldn't people be wary?

    You could have responded to that but you didn't, so don't try to make the argument that "you guys dismiss every argument with some kind of bigotry accusation", when all many have done is pointed out actual "bigotry" -- such as the frequent attacks on LGBT citizens by the "Christian right".

    As for the issue of racism, it's well known that many Christians use their religion to justify attacks on Muslims and other minorities -- the Klan even used it to justify burning crosses in the front of my great aunt's home before lynching one of her relatives.

    You can argue that things have changed, but as has often been pointed out, Sunday church time is still the most segregated hour of the week in America.

    So again -- using the examples above, how does "everyone" try to force their views on others like many religious (Christian) people do?

    I'd like to add here that I have no problem with Christians -- or Christianity in general -- and I'm glad to live in a country where people can worship as they see fit, so long as they fairly abide by the laws and principles regarding the separation of Church and State.
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