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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    If you honestly 100% think that upon conception that it is a human that they are carrying, then you really don't have much leeway to say it's acceptable under anything less than life threatening conditions to kill it. If you don't believe that, then it becomes a viable choice.

    To a lot of these people the difference between an abortion and strangling a baby in it's crib is just time and nothing else.
    Are you, personally, saying, personally, though, personally, that both those opinions are equally valid?

    I mean, you personally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohnooze View Post
    Jetengine said nothing. You guys complain about conservatives not listening but you're the exact same way. You dismiss every argument with some kind of bigotry accusation instated of trying to see it from their point of view then complain about how close minded they are.
    Then lets exchange ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    What point of view? Like seriously.

    When science is ignored, when peoples choices are squashed, when it runs back constantly to "Well my big buisness interests are the real issue" etc people start to get pissed off.

    We have tons of liberals arguing in this thread over what each candidate has done in their career and whether that makes then actually good enough. Meanwhile Conservatives vote for anyone no matter how damaging it is to themselves.
    That's the problem with the modern right, no matter how utterly ridiculous a point of view is like opposing unionization or blanket abortions or separating families at the border or border walls (all absolutely ridiculous ideas taking us back to the dark ages) , some people on the right find ways to defend it.

    On the left on the other hand, there are several competing ideas being thrown around right now (like universal healthcare, universal basic income, green economics, e.t.c) which are pertinent in the face of current challenges.

    That's why people dismiss right wing talking points. It's all just about opposing stuff without any real solutions. Calling trans people mentally ill doesn't solve the growing number of trans people, building walls at the border won't stop or curb illegal immigration, banning abortion will not curb abortion and won't "preserve" white people, saying people should be slaves to capitalism doesn't solve the massive and increasing wage gap e.t.c
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    There is no debate over whether transgender people exist. It's an accepted fact, so comment accordingly.

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    Thank you, Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    Are you, personally, saying, personally, though, personally, that both those opinions are equally valid?

    I mean, you personally?
    I’m saying it doesn’t matter to the people who believe it and you’re a fool if you think there is any viability in convincing them otherwise. You’re just spinning your wheels and wasting cycles on a fruitless task

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    AOC goes on the attack again, and I applaud her for going after the big boys in Big Pharma:

    Ocasio-Cortez confronts CEO for nearly $2K price tag on HIV drug that costs $8 in Australia
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    What. The. FUCK?

    Trump Administration Asks Congress to Reimburse Taliban

    President Donald Trump asked Congress to pay the Afghanistan Taliban for the costs associated with attending peace conferences, according to a new report.

    The Department of Defense asked Congress to reimburse members of the Taliban earlier this year for expenses incurred while attending a number of negotiations, according to House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense Chair, Pete Visclosky.

    The money would be used to cover transportation, lodging, food and miscellaneous supplies, Kevin Spicer, spokesman for Indiana Democrat Visclosky, told CQ Roll Call.

    But, said Spicer, this request to pay the Taliban with U.S. money “would implicate provisions of law concerning material support to terrorists, the Taliban’s ongoing offensive operations against U.S. service members, and their continuing lack of acknowledgement of the government of Afghanistan or the rights of women in Afghan society.”
    To paraphrase a line from a legendary song by The Kinks, maybe I'm dumb, but I can't understand what the hell is going on here. Meanwhile, in this week's topic du jour....

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    When Faux News bimbette Tomi Lahren is against Alabama's abortion ban, then you KNOW that shit stinks to high heaven:

    https://www.newsweek.com/tomi-lahren...gerous-1428166
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    Oh, WBE. David Eastman is back at its gain.

    https://rewire.news/legislative-trac...f-2019-hb-178/

    He also apparently claimed in 2017 that poor women delay abortions to get a free trip to Seattle since Alaska won't perform them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Oh, WBE. David Eastman is back at its gain.

    https://rewire.news/legislative-trac...f-2019-hb-178/

    He's declaring that poor women delay abortions to get a free trip to Seattle since Alaska won't perform them.
    Seattle, eh? Maybe they like going up in the Space Needle, or hanging out at Pike Place Fish Market. Then again, maybe this Eastman turd is just being a smacked Republican ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    At least the subcommittee approved a bill specifically barring such payments, but I join you in the WTFery of this request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Oh, WBE. David Eastman is back at its gain.

    https://rewire.news/legislative-trac...f-2019-hb-178/

    He also apparently claimed in 2017 that poor women delay abortions to get a free trip to Seattle since Alaska won't perform them.
    I believe I just profiled him on May the 4th...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post

    When Faux News bimbette Tomi Lahren is against Alabama's abortion ban, then you KNOW that shit stinks to high heaven:

    https://www.newsweek.com/tomi-lahren...gerous-1428166
    I haven't clicked on the link yet but I'm not surprised if Tomi has problems with the new law. Remember she got kicked off conservative "The Blaze" for not being anti-abortion enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    I haven't clicked on the link yet but I'm not surprised if Tomi has problems with the new law. Remember she got kicked off conservative "The Blaze" for not being anti-abortion enough.
    It's beyond frustrating that clowns believe that by killing Roe v. Wade, they'll end abortion in this country. The truth is, all that will be ended would be safe and legal abortion, and THAT'S the problem.
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