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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    I reject your reality and reference my own!
    Yeah! What he said!



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    Joe Biden Slams ‘Divider-In-Chief’ Trump In Philadelphia Campaign Kickoff

    The former vice president touted a message of unity, pointing to Trump’s defeat as “the single most important thing we have to accomplish.” Uncle Joe gets off to rollicking good start.

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    Game Asked Players To Kill Journalist, Make Him ‘Famous In A Different Way’

    Developers TFG Co. removed the level after HuffPost’s story. What a shame. That probably was the only game the media hating Trump would've played.

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    Trump Officials Identify 1,700 More Children Who May Have Been Separated From Parents

    The children came into the country before Trump’s “zero tolerance” policy. Tens of thousands of files on immigrant children still need to be reviewed. This is nothing short of abominable!

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    Missouri Lawmaker Backpedals On Suggestion That ‘Consensual Rapes’ Exist

    Rep. Barry Hovis claims to have misspoken during a debate over the state’s restrictive new abortion bill. Well, isn't that what Republicans ALWAYS say after they're called on the carpet for some idiotic thing they said? Oh, WBEEEEEEEE....!

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    The White Supremacist Professor Teaching At A Public University

    Ricardo Duchesne teaches students at a Canadian university while moonlighting on white nationalist podcasts and spouting racist conspiracy theories. Makes you wonder how many professors here in the U.S. moonlight as white supremacist assholes?
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    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/berni...R9PeR0iW1-F_ge

    Bernie Sanders Used His Campaign Data To Drive Turnout On Strike Picket Lines
    In an unusual move for a presidential candidate, the campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) sent out targeted text messages and emails to its supporters in California a day ahead of the strike, urging them to join workers as they rallied against the university system in a labor dispute.

    “Tens of thousands of workers in the University of California system are standing up this Thursday to stop the outsourcing and privatization of union jobs,” the email said. “We are hoping you can join these workers tomorrow.”

    The note included an RSVP link and an address for a local picket.

    The move apparently worked, according to John de los Angeles, a spokesperson for the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees Local 3299, one of the unions involved in the strike.

    “I deployed a press team across the state and was in contact with them,” de los Angeles said. “They were sending me pictures of random supporters out on the line because they had received an email or text from the Bernie campaign. That happened all over the place.”
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    That Sniper 3-D game is genuinely awful. I don't usually have any issues with violence in my gaming but I got to a level that asked me to shoot fleeing orange-jumpsuited prisoners in the back as they ran away and, well, I was grossed the hell out and deleted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    Normally I'd pass this sort of thing as meaningless but we've already seen parody become reality before and I don't WANT to live out Demolition Man!



    Pick your side in the Franchise Wars now, because without further ado:


    Taco Bell Is Opening a Hotel in Palm Springs This Summer
    Ha! Some would argue that we're already living in Demolition Man ( except for the bit with the seashells)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Good for him. Sanders has good ideas when he sticks to his lane.

    If he weren't so old, he could be become one of the better labor secretaries this country has had, under the next president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    I'm baffled about what trump's game is with the immigrants. He separates the children from their parents, places them in cages, gives them poor health care that results in the death of 4 children, the government can't find the parents of thousands of children, calls it a national crisis and an invasion, moves money away from vets and other government agencies to fund his wall and now plans on releasing the immigrants across the nation? trump has to know that this will cause more immigration and I'm wonder if that's his goal; have another wave of immigrants come so that he can renew his 'invasion/crisis' rhetoric to bolster support for the wall.
    No, the reality is that he didn't know what to do with them.

    He had to appeal to his base so ICE ended up being his secret police and when he actually did have people rounded up, where did they go? Cages and went "missing", which is to say they either died there or they cut them loose and or dare I say never collected the kids at all. People got sent back to Mexico, but people ended up in camps under dubious direction.

    The wall is BTW in the process of being designed, but nothing was ever going to happen that early into Trump's tenure. And yeah, reports are that the wall was still being designed, so nothing was ever going to show up. Nothing's even going to show up this year even.

    At the end of the day, Trump was about 20 years too late for the immigration "crisis". You can't put the genie back in the bottle at this point and him fumbling the ball isn't a chess move, it's him fumbling the ball. He doesn't know what to do with a 20+ year old issue and we have no infrastructure to deal with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    Ha! Some would argue that we're already living in Demolition Man ( except for the bit with the seashells)!
    Give climate change some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorIronman View Post
    No, the reality is that he didn't know what to do with them.

    He had to appeal to his base so ICE ended up being his secret police and when he actually did have people rounded up, where did they go? Cages and went "missing", which is to say they either died there or they cut them loose and or dare I say never collected the kids at all. People got sent back to Mexico, but people ended up in camps under dubious direction.

    The wall is BTW in the process of being designed, but nothing was ever going to happen that early into Trump's tenure. And yeah, reports are that the wall was still being designed, so nothing was ever going to show up. Nothing's even going to show up this year even.

    At the end of the day, Trump was about 20 years too late for the immigration "crisis". You can't put the genie back in the bottle at this point and him fumbling the ball isn't a chess move, it's him fumbling the ball. He doesn't know what to do with a 20+ year old issue and we have no infrastructure to deal with that.
    Maybe the reason he's decades behind on everything is because he's a vindictive moron that never lets go of a grudge no matter how much time passes.
    I remember the panic about Mexicans when I was a kid, it taught me a lesson about how racist Missouri can be, I think he's still holding on to that.

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    I think Trump's biggest regret in life was that he wasn't around to be a part of the Rat Pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    Maybe the reason he's decades behind on everything is because he's a vindictive moron that never lets go of a grudge no matter how much time passes.
    I remember the panic about Mexicans when I was a kid, it taught me a lesson about how racist Missouri can be, I think he's still holding on to that.
    Just like he’s held onto his grudge against the NFL for that legal battle he lost way back in 1987, thus his moronic crusade against players who knelt during the anthem, and the shitstorm that followed.

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    I think Trump's biggest regret in life was that he wasn't around to be a part of the Rat Pack.
    Are you kidding? Frankie, Dino and the boys wouldn’t have wanted anything to do with Trump and had him thrown out on his ear (or bumped off as it was rumored Sinatra had connections in the Mob).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Are you kidding? Frankie, Dino and the boys wouldn’t have wanted anything to do with Trump and had him thrown out on his ear (or bumped off as it was rumored Sinatra had connections in the Mob).
    Agreed. But in Trump's sick, egotistical mind he would have been one of the crew. More to the point, it is a symbol of his late 50's mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Are you kidding? Frankie, Dino and the boys wouldn’t have wanted anything to do with Trump and had him thrown out on his ear (or bumped off as it was rumored Sinatra had connections in the Mob).
    The head of the FBI's Organized Crime Unit (the one that took down all five New York families in the 80s) cleared Sinatra after a background check. Not conclusive or anything, but zero evidence.

    The Pack did, however, refuse to perform at any hotels that wouldn't let Sammy stay there. Doesn't seem like Trump's kind of crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    The head of the FBI's Organized Crime Unit (the one that took down all five New York families in the 80s) cleared Sinatra after a background check. Not conclusive or anything, but zero evidence.

    The Pack did, however, refuse to perform at any hotels that wouldn't let Sammy stay there. Doesn't seem like Trump's kind of crowd.
    No mob connections? We all saw The Godfather and the whole horse's head thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    The head of the FBI's Organized Crime Unit (the one that took down all five New York families in the 80s) cleared Sinatra after a background check. Not conclusive or anything, but zero evidence.

    The Pack did, however, refuse to perform at any hotels that wouldn't let Sammy stay there. Doesn't seem like Trump's kind of crowd.

    Yeah Sinatra would want nothing to do with Trump at all. Because Sinatra believed in others getting a chance in life ala minorities and didn't care what religion they were. . I mean he had this dialogue in a movie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    That's the problem with the modern right, no matter how utterly ridiculous a point of view is like opposing unionization or blanket abortions or separating families at the border or border walls (all absolutely ridiculous ideas taking us back to the dark ages) , some people on the right find ways to defend it.

    On the left on the other hand, there are several competing ideas being thrown around right now (like universal healthcare, universal basic income, green economics, e.t.c) which are pertinent in the face of current challenges.

    That's why people dismiss right wing talking points. It's all just about opposing stuff without any real solutions. Calling trans people mentally ill doesn't solve the growing number of trans people, building walls at the border won't stop or curb illegal immigration, banning abortion will not curb abortion and won't "preserve" white people, saying people should be slaves to capitalism doesn't solve the massive and increasing wage gap e.t.c
    The problem might not be left VS right, but a fundamental misunderstanding of the right.

    There are numerous studies suggesting that people on the left just don't understand where the right is coming from.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...history-219742

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-venus/252416/

    There is further suggestion that conservatives understand liberal positions better than liberals understand right-wing positions, possibly because there's more exposure of left-wing ideas in the mainstream media.

    Let's look at the issues you mentioned.

    There are differing opinions on the right regarding trans people. Plenty do view it exclusively as a form of mental illness akin to body dysmorphic dysphoria or anorexia, but that's not the only viewpoint (and it is not my position). The current left-wing approach seems to be acceptance and affirmation immediately, when that can cause harm with something that often calls for surgery and sterilization.

    The general belief on the right is that building walls on the border will help with curbing undocumented immigration. It won't eliminate it, but it does have a few advantages, including the signal it sends and some practical advantages in making it easier to recognize breaches, or pushing those sneaking in into particular sections that can be monitored more readily.

    There's plenty of evidence that making abortion illegal decreases the number of abortions. The argument popularized in Freakonomics that the decline in crime in the 1990s can be attributed to easier access to abortion requires access to abortion to increase the number of women able to obtain it.

    http://freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/a...d-you-believe/

    No one is literally saying that people should be slaves to capitalism. That's a straw man. Conservatives do typically not care about inequality, but part of it is that it won't help the people on the bottom. If everyone's wealth doubled, that would be a great thing, even if it meant income inequality doubled. They're also less likely to see a viable alternative to most people working for a living.

    It does also appear that there are more intellectual divisions on the right. There are distinctions (and in some cases, overlaps) between Gamergate, the older MAGA crowd, the Fox News Republicans, the Intellectual Dark Web, the Never-Trump establishment Republicans, the Trump-agnostic establishment Republicans, the older religious right, the younger religious right, the libertarians, various professional grifters and other groups in terms of approaches.

    On the left, diversity of thought certainly exists, with socialists, the more moderate Clinton Democrats, and the identity politics types all pushing for different things. However, democrats are more likely to have varied groups working together to advance their interests (these are often protected classes but not exclusively as public-service employees are a key constituency; you see this with the focus on intersectionality and being a good ally.)
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