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    Trump May Pardon Several Suspected War Criminals. These Are Their Stories.

    Their alleged crimes include killing young children and burning bodies. Those stories are flat out fucking abominable. I worry that Trump is doing for no other reason than to piss off liberals. Meanwhile, not much in the way of objection from Republicans.

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    Mike Pence Tells West Point Graduates They Will Be In Combat: ‘It Will Happen’

    “Some of you will join the fight on the Korean Peninsula ... where North Korea continues to threaten the peace,” the vice president said. One would think the administration would strive to AVOID sending our servicemen and servicewomen into combat, not tell West Pointers to EXPECT it! Are you fucking kidding me?

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    Jon Voight Calls Trump ‘Greatest President Since Abraham Lincoln’

    The conservative actor claimed Trump is “battling the left and their absurd words of destruction.” Oh, yes, let's ignore Franklin D. Roosevelt who steered the country through the worst days of World War II, or JFK who helped prevent World War III. Voight needs to SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

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    Trump Gives William Barr Wide Declassification Authority In ‘Spying’ Probe

    Intelligence officials reject claims that “spying” occurred during the 2016 election, but the president keeps calling for an investigation. Plain and simple: This is about Trump wanting payback on the country's intelligence apparatus for investigating him. Anyone who thinks differently is either delusional or stupid.

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    King Of Irony Donald Trump Chuckles Over ‘Low IQ’ Joe ‘Bidan,’ Twitter Wits Can’t Even

    “Joe Bidan for presidant! Tramp is terrafied he’ll win the 2020 elaction,” notes one response. I can't even myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post
    If he doesn't make it into office, he can always start a YouTube channel.

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    Heres a question regarding politics overall.

    Do you believe the often trotted out "Some of the issues with our society are due to constant news and social media sphere which never lets up and spews negativity" thing ? Or do you think its garbage pushed out by politicians looking for an easy excuse for how their policies have caused social harm for their own gain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    If he doesn't make it into office, he can always start a YouTube channel.
    He already has one discussing dem liberals and violent black folk. He's way ahead of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    Comically as Shapiro learned a couple weeks ago the whole 'DEBATE ME" stance will only go so far and once someone drops that challenge to you in a TV interview and your not ready...well its pretty funny.
    It wasn't even a debate. The thing with Andrew Neil was supposed to be an interview, but when pointed out that although the premise of Ben's new book is that we should be more civil, Ben has and does say all kinds of awful things about people, Ben got upset. His debate tricks didn't work on Neil so Ben stormed out in a huff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    Heres a question regarding politics overall.

    Do you believe the often trotted out "Some of the issues with our society are due to constant news and social media sphere which never lets up and spews negativity" thing ? Or do you think its garbage pushed out by politicians looking for an easy excuse for how their policies have caused social harm for their own gain?
    Well, there is research that shows that a lot of people think crime went up, when it really went down. And a lot of people think there are two sides to the climate crisis.

    Those ideas must come from somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Anti-China demagoguery, twenty years of it, is a thing. I remember my sibling telling me Clinton was bad because twenty years ago because he 'sold us out to China'.

    Meanwhile, China is running enormous slave labor concentration camps but no one care because the victims are Muslim.
    There are plenty of legitimate reasons to despise China and its growing influence on the world, but none of the people that vocally hate them actually care about any of that stuff. Fundamentally, people are just especially triggered by China trying to dick over Western countries in the same way that the West has been dicking over the rest of the world for so long, being on the other side of that equation is not really a comfortable or familiar position.

    As far as the Uighurs go, I don't think that any amount of well-meaning concern shown by the international community is going to do anything to help their plight, if anything the more sympathy they garner the more that the Chinese government will double down on the repressive policies. Just look at what happened to the Tibetans, they were quite the cause celebre for a while but the support stopped well short of actually doing anything to help them, and by this point China has basically beaten the Tibetans completely into submission, to the point where their international supporters basically just gave up and moved on to something else. China is banking that they can repeat the same trick with the Uighurs, except that this time they are dealing with an ethnic group that doesn't have any of the inherent charms of the rustic and peace loving Tibetans, or a charismatic leader like the Dalai Lama, so they are confident they can get away with a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    There are plenty of legitimate reasons to despise China and its growing influence on the world, but none of the people that vocally hate them actually care about any of that stuff. Fundamentally, people are just especially triggered by China trying to dick over Western countries in the same way that the West has been dicking over the rest of the world for so long, being on the other side of that equation is not really a comfortable or familiar position.

    As far as the Uighurs go, I don't think that any amount of well-meaning concern shown by the international community is going to do anything to help their plight, if anything the more sympathy they garner the more that the Chinese government will double down on the repressive policies. Just look at what happened to the Tibetans, they were quite the cause celebre for a while but the support stopped well short of actually doing anything to help them, and by this point China has basically beaten the Tibetans completely into submission, to the point where their international supporters basically just gave up and moved on to something else. China is banking that they can repeat the same trick with the Uighurs, except that this time they are dealing with an ethnic group that doesn't have any of the inherent charms of the rustic and peace loving Tibetans, or a charismatic leader like the Dalai Lama, so they are confident they can get away with a lot more.
    ‘If I disappear’: Chinese students make farewell messages amid crackdowns over labor activism

    BEIJING — The video opens with the 21-year-old sociology student facing the camera. His voice quivers as he recounts his interrogation — his humiliation — for days at the hands of Beijing police.

    The officials pressured him to quit labor activism and drop out of Peking University, he says. They slapped him until blood streamed from his nose. They jammed headphones into his ears and played hours of propaganda at full volume.

    On the last day, he alleges, they had him bend over a table naked and spread his buttocks, joking darkly that they would teach him how to insert a listening device.

    “This all happened on campus,” Qiu Zhanxuan seethes in the video he recorded in February after he said the police released him, temporarily, after a four-day ordeal.

    “If I disappear,” he adds, “it’ll be because of them.”
    Qiu disappeared April 29.

    State security agents seized him that day from Beijing’s outskirts, his classmates say. Qiu’s offense? He was the leader of the Marxist student association at the elite Peking University, a communist of conscience who defied the Communist Party of China.
    But the source of the dissent carried an extra sting for the government. Peking University, after all, educates China’s best and brightest, the top 0.1 percent of the country’s high school graduates. And its rebellious young Marxists were doing something particularly embarrassing: They were standing up for disenfranchised workers against the state.

    They were, in other words, emulating the early Communist Party itself.
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    Parents are poisoning their children with bleach to 'cure' autism. These moms are trying to stop it.

    When they aren’t working or taking care of their autistic children, Melissa Eaton and Amanda Seigler are moles.

    Eaton, 39, a single mother from Salisbury, North Carolina, and Seigler, 38, a mom to six in Lake Worth, Florida, have spent much of their free time in the last three years infiltrating more than a dozen private Facebook groups for parents of autistic kids. In some of these groups, members describe using dubious, dangerous methods to try to “heal” their children’s autism — a condition with no medically known cause or cure.

    The parents in many of these groups, which have ranged from tens to tens of thousands of members, believe that autism is caused by a hodgepodge of phenomena, including viruses, bacteria, fungal infections, parasites, heavy metal poisoning from vaccines, general inflammation, allergies, gluten and even the moon.

    The so-called treatments are equally confused. Some parents credit turpentine or their children’s own urine as the secret miracle drug for reversing autism. One of the most sought-after chemicals is chlorine dioxide — a compound that the Food and Drug Administration warns amounts to industrial bleach, and doctors say can cause permanent harm. Parents still give it to their children orally, through enemas, and in baths. Proponents of chlorine dioxide profit off these parents’ fears and hopes by selling books about the supposed “cure,” marketing the chemicals and posting how-to videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    There are plenty of legitimate reasons to despise China and its growing influence on the world, but none of the people that vocally hate them actually care about any of that stuff. Fundamentally, people are just especially triggered by China trying to dick over Western countries in the same way that the West has been dicking over the rest of the world for so long, being on the other side of that equation is not really a comfortable or familiar position.

    As far as the Uighurs go, I don't think that any amount of well-meaning concern shown by the international community is going to do anything to help their plight, if anything the more sympathy they garner the more that the Chinese government will double down on the repressive policies. Just look at what happened to the Tibetans, they were quite the cause celebre for a while but the support stopped well short of actually doing anything to help them, and by this point China has basically beaten the Tibetans completely into submission, to the point where their international supporters basically just gave up and moved on to something else. China is banking that they can repeat the same trick with the Uighurs, except that this time they are dealing with an ethnic group that doesn't have any of the inherent charms of the rustic and peace loving Tibetans, or a charismatic leader like the Dalai Lama, so they are confident they can get away with a lot more.
    The Chinese government is well aware that the international perception (particularly Western) of Islam is that everyone who is a Muslim must be a terrorist or violently opposed to progressive ideas, so it's okay to be mean to them 'cuz they're bad people. It's not going to be talked about for those obvious reasons; Tibet had that appeal to the average layperson due to the allure of the Dalai Lama as well as the mystique of the region itself, while you couldn't get the average man or woman to identify Xinijang on a map.

    The absurd part is that... Islamic countries themselves are okay with this abuse, since A) it's not their people being oppressed, and B) China helps feed their coffers.

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    Oh, for fuck's sake. The moon is making your kid autistic?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    There are plenty of legitimate reasons to despise China and its growing influence on the world, but none of the people that vocally hate them actually care about any of that stuff. Fundamentally, people are just especially triggered by China trying to dick over Western countries in the same way that the West has been dicking over the rest of the world for so long, being on the other side of that equation is not really a comfortable or familiar position.

    As far as the Uighurs go, I don't think that any amount of well-meaning concern shown by the international community is going to do anything to help their plight, if anything the more sympathy they garner the more that the Chinese government will double down on the repressive policies. Just look at what happened to the Tibetans, they were quite the cause celebre for a while but the support stopped well short of actually doing anything to help them, and by this point China has basically beaten the Tibetans completely into submission, to the point where their international supporters basically just gave up and moved on to something else. China is banking that they can repeat the same trick with the Uighurs, except that this time they are dealing with an ethnic group that doesn't have any of the inherent charms of the rustic and peace loving Tibetans, or a charismatic leader like the Dalai Lama, so they are confident they can get away with a lot more.
    Sure. I am not saying 'don't criticize China'. I am saying that anti-Chinese demagougery serves a useful purpose in our politics to many, which usually does not criticize China for things like, say, its treatment of Uighurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogindy View Post
    The Chinese government is well aware that the international perception (particularly Western) of Islam is that everyone who is a Muslim must be a terrorist or violently opposed to progressive ideas, so it's okay to be mean to them 'cuz they're bad people. It's not going to be talked about for those obvious reasons; Tibet had that appeal to the average layperson due to the allure of the Dalai Lama as well as the mystique of the region itself, while you couldn't get the average man or woman to identify Xinijang on a map.

    The absurd part is that... Islamic countries themselves are okay with this abuse, since A) it's not their people being oppressed, and B) China helps feed their coffers.
    The crackdown in Xinjiang is based on race, not religion, since ethnically Chinese Muslims aren't being targeted at all and Uighurs, like most of their cousins from the 'Stan countries, practice a pretty loose form of Islam that would be unrecognizable to most Middle Easterners. And while I'm sure Middle Easterners do care about what's going on there, it's sort of counterproductive for them to speak up, since showing solidarity with Uighurs only confirms the Chinese government's suspicions that foreign countries are conspiring to break off that chunk of territory, which was the rationale for the repression in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Sure. I am not saying 'don't criticize China'. I am saying that anti-Chinese demagougery serves a useful purpose in our politics to many, which usually does not criticize China for things like, say, its treatment of Uighurs.
    Anti-Chinese demagoguery also suits the interests of the Chinese government perfectly, the idea of a bunch of evil foreigners trying to take China down a peg out of spite is exactly the image they want to present to the people to whip up the nationalistic frenzy that they need to tide them through the oncoming economic transition.
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    Not Hiring: Georgia Mayor Allegedly Says Her City Isn’t Ready For Black Employees

    For Black Employees
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    If you’re Black and applying for a job in the mostly all-white town of Hoschton, Georgia, you may want to reconsider: The Mayor doesn’t want you.

    According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Mayor Theresa Kenerly told a member of the City Council she yanked the resume of Keith Henry from a group of four finalists “because he is black, and the city isn’t ready for this.”

    Not ready for a Black executive in 2019?

    Henry was a talented, qualified and competent candidate for the city administrator job in the small town of Hoschton, population 1,700, about 50 miles northeast of Atlanta. But 55 years after former President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the historic Civil Rights Act in 1964, Kenerly either doesn’t think her town is ready for an African-American administrator – or Kenerly isn’t ready to forge a professional working relationship with a Black man who would wield a significant amount of power around the tiny township.
    “I can’t say I said it or not said it,” she told reporters according to The Atlanta Journal Constitution.

    She later issued this statement:

    “I do not recall making the statement attributed to me regarding any applicant for the City Administrator position, and I deny that I made any statement that suggest (sic) prejudice,” she said.

    Another case of selective memory?

    Here’s what we know: Henry said he was interviewed by Kenerly over the phone. He told a reporter that he realizes racism in America is prevalent but he didn’t feel Kenerly was particularly racist.
    Kenerly’s alleged comments were made in a closed-door meeting of the City Council where a City Council member overheard Kenerly whisper her remarks. But then, another council member, Hope Weeks, threw Kenerly under the bus.

    “She proceeded to tell me that the candidate was real good, but he was Black and we don’t have a big black population and she just didn’t think Hoschton was ready for that,” Weeks wrote in her account, according to The Atlanta Journal Constitution.

    Weeks told Councilwoman Susan Powers about Kenerly’s comments, and both women told City Attorney Thomas Mitchell.

    “Both of us were just appalled, so we thought we had to do something to stop it,” Powers said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    What's going on India should terrify everyone.



    The rise of this sort of fascism in India is /deeply/ worrisome.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...XIGE4K0n4gDOyE
    The right sure does have a lot of extremists that are supposedly devout theists. Doesn't matter if they are Hindu, Christian, Muslim, whatever, they love to terrorize/kill for their religion .

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