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    So this was a fantastic troll of Steve King.

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    President Whose ‘Bone Spurs’ Kept Him Out Of War Finally Gets His Tank-Adorned Celebration

    But the “nonpolitical” National Mall event’s tepid turnout is likely to trigger fresh anger from the criticism-sensitive Trump. Fuck him! What about anger from taxpayers over how much yesterday's overblown ego stroke cost the people? Meanwhile....

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    Trump Gets Soaked By Twitter Jokes As Rains Drench His 4th Of July Party

    Twitter critics rally around some laughs under the #RainOnTrumpsParade hashtag. Heh! Pretty funny responses! Love it!

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    ‘Chickenhawk’ Lou Dobbs Ripped For ‘Cowardly’ Attack On American Generals

    The Fox Business host slammed U.S. military leaders as “snowflakes” in a bizarre Independence Day attack. By the by, that asswipe never served either, just like his hero Trump. Fuck him too!

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    Military Veterans Call For Trump’s Impeachment In New Video

    Vets call the president a “criminal” and question his loyalty in the video produced by veterans group Common Defense and billionaire Tom Steyer. Good for them!

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    Chris Evans Counters Trump’s Rally With A Stunning July 4th Message Of His Own

    The Captain America actor warns that we’re in an era of “fear, hate, lies and complicity.” Well said, Capt....er, Chris!
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    Friends, you absolutely can NOT make up stupid shit like this!

    Trump Dive-Bombed In Tweets After Claiming Army Seized Revolutionary War Airports

    “Our Army manned the air, it rammed (or ‘rand’) the ramparts, it took over airports, it did everything it had to do,” Trump added. “And at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, had nothing but victory. When dawn came, the star-spangled banner waved defiant.”
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    I have never been happier to see rain in my life.

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    So did trump read from his teleprompter or go off script when he said the US Army took over airports in the Revolutionary War? I kind of wish it's the former because that would mean someone in his staff is trolling him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    So did trump read from his teleprompter or go off script when he said the US Army took over airports in the Revolutionary War? I kind of wish it's the former because that would mean someone in his staff is trolling him.
    I suspect it was more Trump misreading what was on the teleprompter (wouldn't surprise me if his eyesight is dodgy but is too proud to wear glasses in public) than having gone off script or being trolled by someone on his staff. However, if Trump goes on a Twitter rampage this morning about what happened last night, then it could be that he was sabotaged.
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    If you are on Twitter, check out #RevolutionaryWarAirportStories
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    If you are on Twitter, check out #RevolutionaryWarAirportStories
    Yeah, that's trending like crazy. Plenty of funny stuff there.
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    Nice to see Amanda Chase is still frigging awful.

    Here she is blaming rape victims for their rapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    I suspect it was more Trump misreading what was on the teleprompter (wouldn't surprise me if his eyesight is dodgy but is too proud to wear glasses in public) than having gone off script or being trolled by someone on his staff. However, if Trump goes on a Twitter rampage this morning about what happened last night, then it could be that he was sabotaged.
    I honestly think it's as simple as this is what happens when every expressed thought is hyperbolic and fantastical.

    You lie and embellish the same as you walk, and eventually something you say is going to be so objectively absurd, even the most devoted supporter can't contort themselves enough to explain it as anything other than a "gaffe".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    I honestly think it's as simple as this is what happens when every expressed thought is hyperbolic and fantastical.

    You lie and embellish the same as you walk, and eventually something you say is going to be so objectively absurd, even the most devoted supporter can't contort themselves enough to explain it as anything other than a "gaffe".
    You're probably right. No one could pay me to watch Faux News for more than a minute, but I'd just love to watch the idiotic, Trump slurping sycophants there perform all sort of complicated mental gymnastics to make chicken salad out of the chicken shit their fearless leader dropped yesterday.
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    Jeh Johnson, former DHS Secretary in the Obama administration, argues that the the position taken by prominent Democrats is basically open borders. He worries that it will result in more waves of illegal crossings.

    Meanwhile, some Democrats are questioning the basic legal underpinnings of U.S. immigration enforcement and challenging the long-held consensus that a robust detention and deportation system is necessary to prevent an even bigger wave of illegal border crossings into the United States.

    On Tuesday, Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) said he would “virtually eliminate immigration detention” by executive order. During last week’s debate, presidential candidate Julián Castro proposed decriminalizing illegal border crossings — a position other Democrats in the race rapidly adopted.

    Others in the party are urging caution, saying the push toward decriminalization risks playing into Trump’s hands.

    “That is tantamount to declaring publicly that we have open borders,” said Jeh Johnson, who ran the Department of Homeland Security during President Barack Obama’s second term. “That is unworkable, unwise and does not have the support of a majority of American people or the Congress, and if we had such a policy, instead of 100,000 apprehensions a month, it will be multiples of that.”
    For all the talk about how the Trump administration puts children in cages, Johnson has also noted (as has Trump) that the Obama administration built the cages.

    Very clearly, chain link, barriers, partitions, fences, cages, whatever you want to call them, were not invented on January 20, 2017, OK. And what’s interesting is Tom Homan made that statement — and under normal circumstances to fact check that, I would have called Tom Homan, who was the director of ICE ERO [Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Enforcement and Removal Operations] while I was secretary, and say, ‘Hey Tom, did you guys use these things for ICE facilities?
    The Mexican authorities are concerned that some people are trying to steal children in order to have an easier time getting to the United States.

    From the Seattle Times...

    TIJUANA, Mexico — Some migrants in Tijuana are trying to purchase children from vulnerable single mothers in local shelters so they can more easily cross into the United States, according to shelter directors, migrants and Tijuana law enforcement authorities.

    Migrants in Tijuana shelters said they are alarmed after reports of single mothers being approached by groups of men who have offered to buy children to improve their chances of safely crossing into the United States.

    A decades-old legal document, known as the Flores agreement, says migrant children should only be held briefly in U.S. border custody, which often means they are released, along with the parent or guardian with whom they crossed while they wait for their asylum cases to make their way through clogged immigration courts.

    Typically, when migrants are apprehended at the border with their children they are held in custody for a few days before they are released. Single adults who cross the border can face months in detention.

    U.S. border authorities have been warning since June 2018 about people fraudulently using children who aren’t theirs to pose as family units and gain entry into the United States, a claim that critics said was overblown.

    But now, authorities in Tijuana are warning migrant mothers to keep their children close by and supervised, after reports of men offering to purchase migrant children in order to cross.

    “I can’t go to work because I can’t take my eyes off my boys,” said Antonia Portillo Cruz, a 44-year-old migrant from Honduras, who said the men have been targeting the shelter where she stays. She said she witnessed some of the men asking women in the shelter about purchasing their children, but none of them made the offer directly to her.

    Portillo said the groups of men have been approaching the Iglesia Embajadores de Jesus shelter in Tijuana and offering about 7,000 pesos, or $350, to purchase a child to cross into the United States.

    She said she fears the requests and the offers of money will turn into demands or kidnappings. Portillo said she never lets her two boys, aged 10 and 8, out of her sight.

    “They want to rob our kids so they can cross into the United States,” she said angrily.

    A spokesman for the Tijuana municipal police confirmed the reports and said federal authorities are investigating. The case was first reported by Tijuana journalists Yolanda Morales and Yuriria Sierra for Imagen TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    I don't have a question since I already know the answer -- it's called hypocrisy.

    If it wasn't you'd be complaining about the "costs" of Republican tax cuts that do little more for our country than cause record deficits and lead to recessions.

    Not to mention the cost of the Republican initiated Iraq War that cost hundreds of thousands of lives, over a trillion dollars, and our good reputation.

    Instead, you're defending that same party as it separates children from their families as a "deterrent" and denies them proper medical care.

    You still haven't bothered explaining why you're comfortable supporting a party that is attempting to subvert our democracy by allowing for criminal Russian election interference in our elections and actively restricting the voting rights of "minority" American citizens.

    I don't have any questions, Mets and I've already told you what I believe the answer is -- vote the lying, corrupt Republican party out of office.

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    ""Iraq War Costs U.S. More Than $2 trillion: Study"

    "The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest..."

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...92D0PG20130314


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    "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act Will Cost $1.5 Trillion"

    "According to House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady (R-TX), today's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will add $1.51 trillion to the debt, before accounting for interest or possible gimmicks. This cost would likely be enough to cause debt to exceed the size of the economy by 2028 – bad news for the nation's fiscal and economic future.

    Of the $1.5 trillion cost, roughly $1 trillion comes from business tax cuts. Individual tax cuts make up another $300 billion, and the ultimate repeal of the estate tax accounts for the remaining $200 billion."

    https://www.crfb.org/blogs/tax-cut-a...st-15-trillion
    In these forums, I don't think I have to convince anyone of the problems with the Iraq war. It also doesn't come up all that often.

    I haven't been asked about Russian interference, or specific policies that restrict the rights of minorities. Much of the time if we go granular into the specific policies, the arguments get tougher. As an example, polling sites in places with low levels of resources are less likely to be ADA compliant. The argument that former felons should be allowed to vote typically uses the language of paying their debt to society, which does allow for the insistence that they've also covered all of their fines.

    If you disagree with anything specific I've said about the tax cuts, by all means bring it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by JDogindy View Post
    Of COURSE Mets loves Yang. Why I am not surprised?!
    All I said was that he has a clear policy agenda. This does represent a problem in the discussion when saying something true that favors a candidate is seen as being equivalent to loving that candidate. That suggests we're obligated to lie by omission and to only say what favors our particular side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    This Harris/Biden busing thing just refuses to go away.

    Her debate performance was fantastic, but the more depth we get on her positions the more she starts to crumble.
    It's an odd tactic to blast Biden for his position on a policy, while claiming to basically agree with him on that policy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    You don't need to be a Republican to read the comments on Breitbart. You just need to be a Republican to agree with those comments.
    You'd also have to be a particular type of Republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Mets, just to clear up the primary issue at hand, I'm certain that the majority of posters here have no problem with conservatism as a concept and likely are conservative on issues such as fiscal spending and traditional (yet non-homophobic) family values.

    The main problem is that while conservativism itself is not inherently problematic, the corruption, bigotry, and outright dishonesty of the Republican party is a direct threat to our democracy, and you continue to support this by posting fearmongering rhetoric instead of focusing on the actual problems at hand within said party.

    This post is no different -- fearmongering rhetoric rather than holding your party accountable for it's actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    I'll readily admit I'm not an expert in these matters, but, I don't suppose that Trump's threat to cut off aid to South American countries (thus resulting in more poverty) because they can't stem the tide of poor, desperate immigrants headed north to his satisfaction has nothing to do with those aforementioned waves, right?
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