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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    Even it was 100%, you'd still be punishing the children for getting kidnapped. That's backwards, unless the cruelty is the point.
    For Trump, for his Abominable Administration, and the Republican Party, cruelty IS the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    You seem to be responding to a point I haven't made. We could address both problems.
    Yet both problems aren't proportional, and what other point did bringing up that story have other than to somehow excuse what's currently going on?

    More than 99% of these kids aren't kidnapped, yet ALL are being treated worse than your average person would treat an animal. There's also the point brought up about how this is PUNISHING the kids from being kidnapped or bought.

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    Germany Has a Neo-Nazi Terrorism Epidemic

    When the German politician Walter Lübcke was found shot in the head outside of his home near Kassel on June 2, commentators were quick to assert that a right-wing extremist was the most likely culprit. Even the police seemed half-hearted in their calls for restraint in judging the motive of the crime, and the brief suspicion that the culprit had been someone close to the victim was quickly laid to rest. The unanimity of the official response, in one sense, was admirably forthright. But it was also its own national admission of negligence.

    Lübcke, a member of the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party, served as Kassel district president from 2009 until his death and had long been a figure of regional importance. Tributes from local papers emphasize that he was widely liked and had good relationships with his constituents. In 2015, however, he became a favorite target of right-wingers throughout Germany when, in the midst of the refugee crisis, he told an assembly gathered in the West German city of Lohfelden about the planned construction of a refugee camp, and he brushed away dissent by saying that Germany is a country based on Christian values, including charity, and “anyone who doesn’t share these values, anyone who doesn’t agree, is welcome to leave the country at any time. Every German has that freedom.”
    So it surprised no one when news broke that Stephan Ernst, the suspect in Lübcke’s murder, had a history of racist violence and ties to far-right groups. The killing has provoked widespread condemnations of the ascendancy of right-wing terrorism in Germany; even traditionally conservative leaders such as Minister of the Interior Horst Seehofer are now saying that they need to play catch-up in the fight against the far-right and have promised to devote increased resources to policing right-wing terrorists. But critics say that the German state has a long history of ignoring reactionary terrorism.
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    Oregon governor vows to use executive powers for climate action after Republicans flee

    Oregon Gov. Kate Brown said she is prepared to use her executive powers to take action on climate change after Republican state senators defeated a cap-and-trade bill by fleeing the state.

    “Let me be very, very clear: I am not backing down,” Brown, a Democrat, said at a news conference Sunday, The Oregonian reported. The governor said that she still hopes lawmakers can reach a compromise but added she is prepared to use her executive authority if the legislature cannot reach an agreement.
    After the legislative sessions ended last Sunday, Brown declared that she was not done fighting for the bill, which would have required Oregon to reduce greenhouse gas emissions below 45 percent of the state’s 1990 levels over the next 15 years, according to Reuters. The bill would have imposed a cap on the state’s total emissions and requires companies to buy emission allowances.

    Brown said she hopes that lawmakers can still approve the bill and agreed to propose changes to the legislation that would meet the state’s emission reduction goals without hurting the economy, Willamette Week reported. That may be difficult after Republicans and industry groups fought hard against the legislation and demanded a massive overhaul to the bill.
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    American Billionaire Among 7 People Killed In Bahamas Helicopter Crash

    Chris Cline, a billionaire who made his fortune in the American coal business, died Thursday in a helicopter crash in the Bahamas that killed all seven people onboard.

    Cline, 60, and his daughter, Kameron, were both on the aircraft when it went down, Cline's attorney said. West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice tweeted late Thursday that "I lost a very close friend."
    Cline began his career at a young age toiling underground as a coal miner in West Virginia, like his father and grandfather before him.

    In 1990, he formed the Cline Group, which grew to comprise coal mines in the Appalachian region and later the Illinois Basin. Cline founded Foresight Energy in 2006. Nearly a decade later, the man nicknamed "The King of Coal" sold his controlling stake for $1.4 billion, Forbes reports.

    In March, the magazine put Cline's net worth at $1.8 billion.

    A prominent Republican donor and philanthropist, Cline contributed $1 million to President Trump's 2017 inauguration, according to OpenSecrets, a project of the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. It also lists Cline as a top individual contributor to GOP candidates in 2016.
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    U.S. Drones Are Way Busier Than We Thought Over This Shadow Warzone

    When Houthi fighters blasted an American drone out of the sky in Yemen last month, it raised questions about what exactly the U.S. Reaper was doing there. U.S. officials say the drone was flying over Yemen as part of a terrorist-hunting mission. But that’s not the only thing America’s eyes in Yemen’s skies are up to. Over the past years, American drones have taken on more missions in the country.

    U.S. officials tell The Daily Beast that American drones have been used to help warn Saudi Arabia about Houthi ballistic missile and drone launches at civilian targets in the kingdom; to monitor Houthi attacks on shipping in the Red Sea; and to support United Arab Emirates special operations forces pursuing al Qaeda targets. The U.S. has also offered to carry out drone flights to monitor a U.N.-backed ceasefire around Yemen’s Hodeida province.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    I don't think I need to convince most of the people here of the problems within the Republican party.
    It's not about "convincing" people of anything: it's about being honest about your chosen political party instead of constantly deflecting to "open borders" (i.e. fearmongering) and the like.

    As has already been pointed out (repeatedly) it makes any "dialogue" with you essentially a waste of time.

    Even this exchange is redundant -- you've already made exactly this same "point" in previous posts but it doesn't change the truth about said party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    I don't think I need to convince most of the people here of the problems within the Republican party. You guys are certainly willing to discuss that. But it's an incomplete argument about American politics if you're insisting on primarily focusing on the problems with one party, rather than what's going on in the country outside of partisan politics, to say nothing of the potential mistakes the other parties heading into the election.

    The shortcomings of the Republican party have noting to do with the comments by a former Obama cabinet official regarding the border.
    Maybe this might help. When the day comes that, once again, the Democrats are in control of All Branches of Government, including having a Democrat as President, then you (and the rest of us) can point a finger in that direction when something goes wrong or they do something wrong. I'm not just addressing you, but all Republicans.

    Currently there is a 'So Called' Republican in the White House, and the Republicans control the Senate, and so on. So, why aren't you pointing a finger at them?

    If Democrats are able to be critical of Democratic Leaders, when they are actually in charge and responsible, why is it so hard for you to be critical of Republican Leaders?

    Is it Party Loyalty? Do you feel obligated to play Devil's Advocate even under the worst situations? Or do you truly believe that the Republicans are not to blame for anything; anything they do, or say, or simply any actions or inactions that result from what they do, or say, or don't do.

    How hard it must be to be a Republican, to defend Republican actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    For Trump, for his Abominable Administration, and the Republican Party, cruelty IS the point.
    I've been wondering if the census has anything to do with all of this. Trump has been losing the battle on whether the citizenship question will be allowed to be added to the census. I heard a story recently about how many immigrants, even those with green cards, said that they were frightened about filling out the census next year because they feel that their names would be added to some kind of list that would come back later and cause them problems. With the concentration camps, Trump threatening raids in sanctuary cities, and stories in the media about bad things happening to people who are here legally, maybe Trump will still pull some victory out of this because many are just too scared to participate in the census.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4saken1 View Post
    I've been wondering if the census has anything to do with all of this. Trump has been losing the battle on whether the citizenship question will be allowed to be added to the census. I heard a story recently about how many immigrants, even those with green cards, said that they were frightened about filling out the census next year because they feel that their names would be added to some kind of list that would come back later and cause them problems. With the concentration camps, Trump threatening raids in sanctuary cities, and stories in the media about bad things happening to people who are here legally, maybe Trump will still pull some victory out of this because many are just too scared to participate in the census.
    It's really just about diluting the populations of cities to reduce their electoral clout and gerrymander the Democrats into a weaker position. Since the GOP is incapable of winning a majority, this is all they have left. It really is that simple. Anything else will just be a bonus to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Jesus fucking Christ.
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    Jesus fucking Christ.
    Gonna bring in a pro to assess this one:



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    In 2015, 2016, as well as 2017, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" published profiles of Tony Shipley, a now former member of the Tennessee House of Representatives who won office in 2008 in a race that saw him use the underhanded tactic of running websites in his opponent's name to misrepresent his positions, and send out racist fliers that featured the head of that African American opponent mounted on a Blackbird. He also went off in 2009 and threatened to do something "like what happened in 1860" should gay marriage pass, and that if it did, "God drops California off into the sea". A few days after that rant, he complained about gay adoption and made mention of "Sodom and Gomorrah". A short time later, he submitted legislation to attempt to allow law enforcement to conduct warrantless searches if they had reason to "suspect terrorism" (4th Amendment much?) and when his colleagues tried asking what possible plots he thought might justify it, he pretended to be privy to top secret information. While in office, Shipley also voted to attempt to nullify the Affordable Care Act, to prevent the United Nations' Agenda 21 Environmental Treaty from being implemented, and several blatantly unconstitutional attempts to outlaw abortion, outright. In the 2016 elections, Shipley lost in the GOP Primary for that seat after finishing second in a four-candidate field with only 21% of the vote., over 30 points shy of what he needed for victory. He has not resurfaced in an election since, as of this posting. At this time, we have yet to see any indication that Shipley will attempt to return to office somewhere in Tennessee for the first time since 2014 and will thus move on we’re going to move on and start profiling a different wacky Republican on this date instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 682-30, since this was established in July 2014.)



    On this date one year ago, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” had its first profile of the sitting member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Ohio’s 8th District, Warren Davidson, who was first elected to office in June of 2016, shortly after former Speaker of the House John Boehner said, “F*** this s***,” and peaced out of of Congress. As part of the GOP gerrymandering of House districts after the 2010 elections, Boehner made sure that his own home district was galvanized to protect him from being booted by any Democratic challenger, making it the reddest district in all of Ohio. So when he retired, no less than fifteen…. Yes FIFTEEN Republicans battled it out like it was the goddamned Hunger Games to take his place in Ohio’s 6th for the remainder of his term, which Davidson then coasted to victory in the general special election to establish himself as the incumbent. A short time later, the vote was practically just done over again for the November election, this time with a SIXTEENTH Republican in the primary, and again breezed to victory against a Democrat, because of the +17 Republican lean in the Cook Partisan Voting Index. Almost immediately after arriving in Washington, D.C., Davidson issued what could be interpreted as a final “F*** you” to Boehner as he left office, immediately joining the Republican House Freedom Caucus that constantly was trying to bring about his downfall, and ultimately made Boehner resign in frustration to go work for the medical marijuana lobby. (We’re not going to lie, Boehner really does seem to be laughing last.)

    Now, our fair readers might be wondering… how the heck did a guy who’s only been in office for just about two years earn himself a place in CSGOPOTD?

    Well, that’s easy enough to answer. Warren Davidson seems to REALLY hate poor people.

    This series of posts never hesitates to thank Republicans who served in our armed forces for that service. However, we still reserve the right to call out those veterans for bulls*** unrelated to it when necessary. And while we’ll salute Warren Davidson for his time as a U.S. Army Ranger without hesitation, we still think it’s truly f***ed up that he went to a gathering of veterans to gripe about “moochers” who were within the V.A. Medical system, and kick them out of it. For someone well off like Davidson, maybe having your medical care paid for by the Department of Veteran’s Affairs isn’t a choice he has to make… but for every blue-collar veteran with injuries endured in the service without a six-figure salary to pay for physical or mental health treatments to be turned away? That… is some bulls***. And it’s frankly outrageous that someone would begin playing the “welfare queens” card on fellow service members like that. When people enlist, part of the agreement with the government that a service member gets is, after your service is over, the government helps you take care of your medical needs. That’s it. And there’s no whining about the cost, because men put their lives on the line.

    Sorry if we got up on a soapbox there, but that’s a topic near and dear to CSGOPOTD’s heart.

    Anyway, that one-off comment wasn’t the only time that Rep. Davidson popped off about who actually “deserves” medical coverage. At his first town hall as a Congressman in early 2017, Davidson was hammered with questions about the GOP’s wishes to repeal the Affordable Care Act, even if there was no replacement for it. Thus, the following exchange occurred, resulting in gasps and boos from those assembled:
    Constiuent: “My son did not have health insurance for four years, until the ACA when Medicaid was accepted. He didn’t have health insurance because he’s in the service industry. And that industry pays minimum wage and they keep their employees below a certain number of hours so that they cannot -- so that they don’t have to pay health insurance. So, many of the people that are on Medicaid are working, and they are the working poor. Under Trumpcare, one of the major ways to make health insurance affordable is to bring back catastrophic insurance, which is basically no insurance at all. Given that, given that preventative health care is the number one way to keep people healthy in our society, can you explain why my son and millions of others in his situation are not deserving of affordable, decent healthcare that has essential benefits so that he can stay healthy and continue working?”
    Warren Davidson: “OK, I don’t know anything about your son, but as you described him, his skills are focused in an industry that doesn’t have the kind of options that you want him to have for health care. So, I don’t believe that these taxpayers here are entitled [sic] to give that to him. I believe he’s got the opportunity to go earn those health benefits.
    Yes, he pretty much just told a woman that her son deserved to die because he wasn’t “skilled” enough, and that he has to “earn” the right to keep living. Great work, Warren. Making the GOP look real sympathetic out there. And if you’re wondering if he just misspoke, no, he doubled down on his statement.


    Davidson is also a climate change denier, thinks Sharia Law is a threat to the United States and our Constitution (even though the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment would defend against it quite nicely, but hey, why not be an Islamophobe?), would like to redefine marriage as only between one man and one woman while allowing businesses the “religious freedom” to discriminate against the LGBTQ community, and is a supporter of Personhood.
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    If you’re thinking the above stories might be an indicator that Warren Davidson’s voting record has a mile-wide streak of being uncaring for his fellow Americans, you might be right:

    • January 27th, 2019: Warren Davidson voted against HJR 30, which was meant to express disapproval of Donald Trump not acting against Russian Federation for attacking our democracy. You see, he’s fine with our nation being sublet to Vladimir Putin.
    • January 23rd, 2019: Rep. Davidson voted against HR 648, because he was gleefully enjoying the longest government shutdown in history.
    • February 28th, 2019: Warren Davidson votes against HR 1112, a bill which would have required universal background checks on all firearm purchases, and close the gun show loophole.
    • March 14th, 2019: Rep. Davidson votes against HJR 46, which sane members of Congress voted for to reject Donald Trump’s “national emergency” regarding the U.S. border and his attempts to reallocate funds for a border wall without Congressional approval.
    • April 4th, 2019: Warren Davidson is one of 158 Republicans who choose to vote against the re-authorization of the Violence Against Women Act, likely because they feel the 2nd Amendment remaining absolute is more important than preventing people with a history of domestic abuse from owning a firearm (which statistics show, makes them more likely to use those firearms against women in their lives).
    • June 4th, 2019: Davidson votes against the Dreamers Act, because he’s too xenophobic and partisan to care about immigration reform.


    Regrettably, Warren Davidson inherited one of the seats in Congress that after the 2010 elections, John Boehner assured was gerrymandered with a partisan advantage enough to be nigh-impervious to any Democratic challenger. It showed in 2018, when he won re-election to another term in office. A month after the election, in December of 2018, Davidson actually submitted legislation right at the tail end of the Republican Congress for the “Buy a Brick, Build a Wall” Act that would allow private citizens to donate money towards the stupid, stupid idea of Donald Trump’s border wall on the U.S./Mexico border that would not only not prevent illegal immigration, but would cost billions of dollars in the process. We are fortunate that Democrats won control of the House, and none of Rep. Davidson’s brain-dead ideas will be coming to the floor for a vote anytime in the near future.
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