All Purpose News and Politics Thread Part IV: The Center Cannot Hold

[numberthirty]

So it's nothing. No real hypothesis beyond "I don't know much about polling but this sounds bad to me."

Or...

Folks who buy into it's conclusions don't have much of a reason for that they do past "This sounds like what I want to buy into. No reason to look any deeper than that."

[PaulBullion]

Or...

Folks who buy into it's conclusions don't have much of a reason for that they do past "This sounds like what I want to buy into. No reason to look any deeper than that."

Once you actually start "looking deeper", let us know.

[numberthirty]

Once you actually start "looking deeper", let us know.

Pot/Kettle/Black

[numberthirty]

Pence has no charisma. I have no idea how he was elected to any office in the first place.

When it comes to that...

You could say that about a lot of politicians.

I never once looked at Bruce Rauner or Rod Blagojevich, and thought "This guy has charisma."

[numberthirty]

For the "Illinois"/"Indiana" folks, this story is worth a look. While it's obviously unlikely that anyone on this board will be the person that helps to find her, it doesn't hurt to get it out there.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...508858961.html

69-Year-Old Woman Reported Missing by Chicago Police

Chicago police have issued a “High Risk” missing person alert for a 69-year-old woman who hasn’t been seen since Saturday morning.

According to authorities, 69-year-old Denise Davis-Hunt was last seen in the area of 110th Street and Wentworth Avenue on Saturday.

Davis-Hunt was last seen wearing a green winter hat, a black jacket with red stripes on the sleeves, and white gym shoes, according to police. She stands 5-foot-4 and weighs 160 pounds, and has black hair and brown eyes.

Anyone with information on her whereabouts is encouraged to call Area Central SUV Detectives at 312-747-8380.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

There was a different argument that the video wasn't doctored, but that it was changed in the process of converting a gif into a zoomed-in mp4. This explains the discrepancy without any intentional doctoring.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...-sarah-sanders

His defense of it was an accident being sped up is silly and the fact a man you elected to lead this country decided to frame a reporter he doesn't like is more stupid to defend using this silly clip. Reporters aren't meant to be your friends. Nixon didn't like certain reporters. Obama didn't like Fox News as he joked. But he was an adult and knew that freedom of the press is a basic right this country needs. Not to try and demand the press not stand up against fucking lies repeatedly.

In the end Mets , this is who you elected. A man who used a clip because he was a coward to handle a reporter so he sought out a clip from a site that isn't trusted.

[PaulBullion]

Pot/Kettle/Black

No, sweetie.

You put the poll's methodology in question without explaining why it would favor a certain trend among Sanders voters, but not Buttigieg or Warren voters. You did not offer an explanation why that would be. While pot may have something to do with your style of posting, kettle definitely does not.

[PaulBullion]

Pence has no charisma. I have no idea how he was elected to any office in the first place.

Homophobia and anti-abortion hysteria. The only reasons those guys win.

[numberthirty]

No, sweetie.

You put the poll's methodology in question without explaining why it would favor a certain trend among Sanders voters, but not Buttigieg or Warren voters. You did not offer an explanation why that would be. While pot may have something to do with your style of posting, kettle definitely does not.

Sure.

That the number of these Sanders voters that they got in touch with weren't so hot on voting for Mayor Pete clearly establishes that sexism was behind that they weren't so hot to vote on Warren.

As for the poll's methodology, I'm still not looking at the way they got in touch with folks and thinking "Yep. That's probably a way to get a feel for the actual big picture."

If other folks want to look at it and not think it over past "That's just how they chose to do it..."? Their call.

Never mind that polls had HRC taking Wisconsin. There's always an "Actual Reality" yin to a "Poll Results" Yang. Sometimes they'll line up. Sometimes they won't.

As for the conclusion that some of Sanders supporters aren't in any big hurry to vote for anyone who isn't Sanders? Well, duh.

[PaulBullion]

Sure.

That the number of these Sanders voters that they got in touch with weren't so hot on voting for Mayor Pete clearly establishes that sexism was behind that they weren't so hot to vote on Warren.

As for the poll's methodology, I'm still not looking at the way they got in touch with folks and thinking "Yep. That's probably a way to get a feel for the actual big picture."

If other folks want to look at it and not think it over past "That's just how they chose to do it..."? Their call.

Never mind that polls had HRC taking Wisconsin. There's always an "Actual Reality" yin to a "Poll Results" Yang. Sometimes they'll line up. Sometimes they won't.

As for the conclusion that some of Sanders supporters aren't in any big hurry to vote for anyone who isn't Sanders? Well, duh.

I accept your apology.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

The Climate Kids Are All Right

Youths around the world are rising to the climate challenge — and they don’t care what the trolls have to say about it. I for one find it heartening that young people are taking the initiative on an important issue ignorant adults choose to ignore.

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Rudy Giuliani: ‘There’s Nothing Wrong With Taking Information From Russians’

The president’s lawyer also called Mitt Romney a “hypocrite” and said the Utah senator should “stop this pious act.” THIS is what happens when Rudy is put in front of a camera without having taken his meds beforehand.

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The Observer Wants Trump’s ‘Stomach-Churning’ Meeting With Queen Nixed

“The corruption investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller ... provided ample evidence of what we already know: Trump is unfit to hold the office of president of the United States.” Caramel Caligula won't like that....after someone tells him about it of course.

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Top Democrat: Mueller Report’s Potential Obstruction Claims Impeachable ‘If Proven’

“We’re going to see where the facts lead us,” said Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. That's bound to drive Trump even more batshit crazy than he already is now because nothing enrages him more than having the legitimacy of his election victory, AND his presidency called into question.

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Howard Schultz Roasted On Twitter Over Weird New Campaign Ad

The ex-Starbucks CEO was served up some bitter brew on social media. Oh, is that fool still around? Most unfortunate.

[PaulBullion]

This world. This fucking world.

As Jews celebrate Passover, antisemitic residents (including many children) of the town of Pruchnik in southern Poland beat and burned a doll made to represent a Jew with stereotypical features.

Apparently, the revival of an old tradition from the "good old days".

[TriggerWarning]

White man will doom us all.

All it means is that voters today still want the same thing as in 2016 which is why Hilary lost: change from career politicians. Both Sanders and Trump were unconventional politicians and represented change in Washington while Clinton represented the status quo. Both Trump and Sanders still represent candidates of change perception wise anyway as Trump has been a fairly typical republican in policy if not words and Sanders is obviously a career politician though an unconventional one. Warren though represents a return to the career politician status quo. I believe she also has the least chance of defeating Trump in 2020 due to her own self inflicted injuries over her fake racial heritage that Trump has been beating her over the head with for years and will do so in the future - it galvanizes his base and will hurt Warren with minorities who will see a rich entitled white woman who lied about being a minority for personal benefit - doesn't matter if she truly did benefit or not as the perception will be there that she did.

[numberthirty]

Don't believe this one came up...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...-bond-campaign

A Top Adviser To Beto O’Rourke Has Left His Presidential Campaign

Bond, a longtime progressive activist and organizer known for her work on O’Rourke’s 2018 Senate bid against Republican Ted Cruz, left the campaign along with her deputy Zack Malitz. Malitz worked closely with Bond on Sen. Bernie Sanders’ first presidential campaign in 2016.

[JCAll]

Hundreds of people dead, and more injured, in suicide bombings of churches and hotels in Sri Lanka this Easter. I don't even know...