All Purpose News and Politics Thread Part IV: The Center Cannot Hold

[Michael Watkins]

Trump admin will apparently not renew program to fight domestic terror

See a pattern forming?

unfortunately, yes.

[Tami]

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The Council for National Policy (to which Kellyanne, Bannon, the DeVos family, the Mercers, Pence, Ken Blackwell, and two men whose families funded the largest voting machine vendor in the U.S.) has set a deadline of 2020 for restoring “religion and economic freedom and Judeo-Christian values” under the Constitution.

1. If you don’t yet know about the Council for National Policy (“CNP”) you should read this Thread. It will help you understand what’s happening to our country.

2. “The Council for National Policy (CNP), is an umbrella organization and networking group for social [anti-abortion, anti-gay] conservative activists in the United States. … Nation magazine has called it a secretive organization that ‘networks wealthy right-wing donors together with top conservative operatives to plan long-term movement strategy.’” http://www.washingtontimes.com/topic...tional-policy/

[Jackalope89]

Well, ****, of course he did. Videogames, the tried and true fallback excuse for when a WHITE guy goes on a shooting rampage.



Seriously? Jesus! Did Trump say El Dorado instead of El Paso? Proof positive Caramel Caligula can't be bothered with expressing empathy.

He sure did. I was heading out to run some errands when he said Toledo.

The Orange Menace continues to make really bad speech gaffes.

[Tami]

If extremist site 8Chan goes away, what happens then?

NBC Tech Reporter Ben Collins tells MSNBC's Hallie Jackson that internet radicalization pipelines are "very political" and brush "up against [Trump's] base a lot."

[Jackalope89]

The Council for National Policy (to which Kellyanne, Bannon, the DeVos family, the Mercers, Pence, Ken Blackwell, and two men whose families funded the largest voting machine vendor in the U.S.) has set a deadline of 2020 for restoring “religion and economic freedom and Judeo-Christian values” under the Constitution.

So much wrong with this and these people.

[worstblogever]

Sen. Ted Cruz, other Republicans condemn white supremacy after El Paso massacre

Oh, F*** you, Ted Cruz. Not even a fortnight ago you were f***ing about with the goddamn Proud Boys. Don't act like you haven't been permissive in this.

GOP Rep Blames Obama, 'Drag Queen Advocates,' Marijuana and Open Borders for the Shootings: 'The List Is Long. And the Fury Will Continue'

Hey, WBE, is she on your list?

She sure as hell is now.

I think she was in the queue for wanting to jail people who support sanctuary cities. This, though... this is quite the "frothing at the mouth" levels of conservative bingo.

Since Putin wants Americans divided, he also benefits from paranoia about Russian involvement in American politics.

...

It's not paranoia if it's real and verified by every single American intelligence agency, including the recent Mueller investigation.

Mets, you really should just stop: all you do is damage your credibility, and the credibility of every other Republican, every time you make these kinds of posts.

Couldn't have said it better myself, christopher.

[Tami]

U.S. Officials Distance Trump Admin From Last-Minute Push to Block Pressure on Iran

A last-minute diplomatic initiative by Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) aimed at easing pressure on Iran was poorly coordinated and ultimately ended in failure, according to multiple administration and congressional sources who spoke to the Washington Free Beacon and provided previously unknown details about the senator's rogue diplomacy with Tehran.

The New Yorker magazine disclosed that Paul attempted to broker a meeting between Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif and President Donald Trump in the Oval Office, against the backdrop of a then-unrevealed decision by the Trump administration to sanction Iran's top diplomat for propagandizing on behalf of Iran's Supreme Leader.

However, multiple U.S. officials closely involved in Iran diplomacy have painted a different picture, describing the meeting as a unilateral initiative by Paul that was not broadly coordinated with key figures in the Trump administration, and which failed in part because of that lack of coordination.

"Senator Paul's effort clearly failed as there was no White House meeting between the President and Foreign Minister Zarif, and Zarif is now sanctioned," a State Department spokesperson told the Free Beacon in the clearest statement to date that Paul's diplomacy was not sanctioned by top administration figures.

This is not how Diplomacy is supposed to work

[Jack Dracula]

The Council for National Policy (to which Kellyanne, Bannon, the DeVos family, the Mercers, Pence, Ken Blackwell, and two men whose families funded the largest voting machine vendor in the U.S.) has set a deadline of 2020 for restoring “religion and economic freedom and Judeo-Christian values” under the Constitution.

Thanks Tami. This explains so much about what's been happening with the GOP over the last couple of decades. It's just..insane.

[Jack Dracula]

Exactly the point I was attempting to illustrate, thanks. I think part of the problem is the fact that the American Constitution is unique in so far as it's legal enshrinement of "the right to bear arms". Frankly, I can't think of a founding document of another modern country which so blatantly mentions firearms.

On that...
The original reason for the 2nd Amendment of the Constititution is that the founders were against the idea of America having a standing army during times of peace. History had taught them that standing armies with no wars to fight often seized power and set up dictatorships.
The 2nd Amendment was crafted to allow states to establish militias of citizens to either defend their state or come together too form a standing army to repel an invasion if necessary.
That was the official understanding until around the 1970's when the NRA, driven by the greed of the weapons manufacturers who sponsored them, decided to push legistlation to change the official interpretation we're now familiar with.

And that's The More You Know.

[jetengine]

On that...
The original reason for the 2nd Amendment of the Constititution is that the founders were against the idea of America having a standing army during times of peace. History had taught them that standing armies with no wars to fight often seized power and set up dictatorships.
The 2nd Amendment was crafted to allow states to establish militias of citizens to either defend their state or come together too form a standing army to repel an invasion if necessary.
That was the official understanding until around the 1970's when the NRA, driven by the greed of the weapons manufacturers who sponsored them, decided to push legistlation to change the official interpretation we're now familiar with.

And that's The More You Know.

Either way its irrelevant since modern air, armour and drones makes a guy with his gun useless. People point to the Middle East Taliban etc s how a "Resistance" would work but they forget that they were more organised, better funded and had opponents wildly unprepared.

[Dalak]

Either way its irrelevant since modern air, armour and drones makes a guy with his gun useless. People point to the Middle East Taliban etc s how a "Resistance" would work but they forget that they were more organised, better funded and had opponents wildly unprepared.

They also have a very particular home field advantage with that geography, and many years of experience using it against outsiders.

[Jack Dracula]

Suggesting marrying those 2 wildly separate and complex issues into one bill is stupid. It clearly shows a lack of seriousness in tackling the problem. They have nothing to do with one another and both separately have wildly differing approaches and viewpoints on how to solve said issue. You try and force 2 complex issues that have nothign to do with each other together and you are making it impossible to get anything done on either.

And that's what the GOP want. They want to keep the boogeyman of the "invading" brown man to use in fear mongering and red meat to the base. They want to keep saying see the Democrats don't want to tackle immigration. And they don't really want to do anything to piss off the gun lobby and NRA.

The thing is he's full of **** because a bipartisan immigration reform bill was handed to him last year and he threw it back because it didn't allow for his stupid wall funding.

[Gray Lensman]

The thing is he's full of **** because a bipartisan immigration reform bill was handed to him last year and he threw it back because it didn't allow for his stupid wall funding.

Maybe he's hoping to get some wall funding and have the courts strike down the gun restrictions (which he would claim was his plan all along even if it wasn't) by tying them together. Although if that is the actual plan I have to ask who really thought it up.

[Jack Dracula]

Maybe he's hoping to get some wall funding and have the courts strike down the gun restrictions (which he would claim was his plan all along even if it wasn't) by tying them together. Although if that is the actual plan I have to ask who really thought it up.

But he's a stable genius with a good uh-brain. Are you saying he couldn't of architected such a plan?

U.S. Officials Distance Trump Admin From Last-Minute Push to Block Pressure on Iran



This is not how Diplomacy is supposed to work

A weakened, aggressive Iran is a good thing for Saudi Arabia and Israel because they are a challenge to SA's power in the region and Israel can point to them as a hostile provider aide to the Palestinians.

[GindyPosts]

Black on Black genocide is happening in Chicago. Cnn.com reports that 'Chicago hospital stops accepting patients after trauma center is overwhelmed with shooting victims.'

The social movement racism against Blacks in the United States and also the World must end. The guy that killed all those people in El Paso posted in his manifesto that he wanted a racial partition which is creating cities and territories in the United States based on racial groups. But this has always been the case. Black people have forever been separated and put into certain areas since slavery. It wasn't a coincidence that a significant number of African Americans died in New Orleans because they were put into high risk places prone to flooding. Black Roots Science talks about it.

They put us together based on the color of our skin not realizing that we may have differences.

For whatever reason black on black crime and black on black hate is peaking. I think that the only solution sadly might be that Blacks have to separate from each other and be allowed to travel and live in places in the United States that African Americans have not traditionally live.

And we should be allowed to actively participate in sectors of the economy that has been socially barred from such as the fishing industry in Maine and New England.

(I dunno why vBulletin won't let us normally post GIFs)

So you're saying black people should separate from each other... but what, pray tell, defines whom should be separated from the masses? The ignorant luddites who vote Democratic who supposedly bang rocks all day due to them being rendered ignorant as a result of their Democratic overlords keeping them stupid, or the superior conservative blacks whose value isn't appreciated enough that we need to be reminded every single day? And where, oh, where, would they move? Alaska? Rural Wyoming?

Here's a scary fact for you; Chicago's a big city. Criminals don't give a **** what skin color they're going after. The more you talk, the less you sound like a man trying to sound witty and urbane and more like a bozo who bought a "Word of the Day" calendar and is trying to use the word he got as many times as possible that day, and the word just happened to be "anaerobe" or something.