Last edited by Celgress; 08-09-2019 at 08:54 PM.
"So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."
Thats literally how I felt in 2016. We had sociopath Clinton and her rapist husband and communist Bernie running for the dems and Drumpf somehow winning the republican side. As every reasonable republican, like Jon Hunstman for instance, fell by the wayside I realized this was going to be a disaster election.
It was literally a "stick the fork in the top socket or bottom socket electrical plug" for me. Which is why I ultimately voted Gary Johnson. He obviously wouldn't win but it was the only non evil vote and I hoped that maybe he'd do well enough that a credible 3rd party candidate would get funding in future elections.
Now I know this won't happen but if I could influence the upcoming election I'd have Trump actually lose the nomination to Bill Weld (former governor of Massechusets and declared for 2020) vs Biden or Buttigeig (I think both are actually moderate but being pushed left for the progressive vote). Any of them would be a win for America.
Last edited by TriggerWarning; 08-09-2019 at 09:03 PM.
Yup, I feel like I'm in an episode of Quantum Leap every time a "Anti-Trump" poster compares anyone running to "The Internet's Hilary Clinton" because BLANK* is some serious scandal.
HINT: It isn't, and it's not caging children in conditions that have killed several or crying crocodile tears & wringing hands wishing there was some way to stop the crisis Trump created.
Because I wasn't that stupid as to vote for a write-in candidate and post it on social media, thus violating the law. Also, in Indiana, we only had the options we were given, so no candidates from any truly fringe groups, such as the Temperance Party, the Communist Party, or my personal favorite party, Party World.
I pretty much went into detail a while back as to why I ended up voting for Johnson back in 2016, but again, at the risk of having some people rail on my ass, I'll be quick; I would never vote for Trump in a million years, but I didn't trust Hillary on a personal level and her health issues worried me, and I thought Jill Stein was a freak show. The end.
We're not going down this freaking rabbit hole again. Look; I live in Indiana. My Democratic Party is trash. Even though we have people lining up to take a swing at Holcomb, the man in charge is most likely going to pick two-time loser John Gregg because undecided voters will pick Republican Lite based upon the notion that it's akin to drinking light beer, most likely forgetting how badly Joe Donnelly lost in 2018 by that point. If I stay home, my state votes for Trump. If I vote, my state votes for Trump. That said, next year, I'm voting for a Democrat... unless John Gregg runs again, at which point, I WILL write in a candidate for governor and post it on social media.
Last edited by GindyPosts; 08-09-2019 at 09:27 PM.
If you can't make yourself vote against Trump at this point, thinking that any 3rd party vote is better than that damn flawed Dem candidate or whatever reasoning you are using to support your choice to not vote to end his presidency - You are just as fine with the deaths he's causing, the ones he'll continue to cause, and the hate he continually spreads as those who vote for him. There is no moral stance that includes "I didn't vote against Trump in 2020", unless you are lying to yourself and everyone else.
No, I was legit serious about Tulsi Gabbard. Like, I can remember Andrew Yang easily given how the alt-right fell in love with him due to how he just wants to give everyone $1K a month and are supporting him since they feel Trump has failed them, thus knowing who to root against this year, and it's impossible to forget someone like Williamson when you watched her talk.
Um... I seriously doubt they'll go with Beto O'Rourke as the VP nod by then, assuming his campaign will have fallen apart shortly after Iowa, and he's forgotten about. If anything, they may lean more towards Kamala Harris, whom I think is someone that has a chance to reach out to younger voters and possibly people likely upset they won't get to vote for Bernie Sanders once again, although then you're dealing with a clash of generations given Biden's unfortunate (but should not be ignored) record of working with the racist Southern Democrats, to which having someone like Harris would be accused of racial pandering by skeptics and Republicans... though, ironically, we call that the Buttigieg Special right now.
When it comes to O'Rourke, I'd have to imagine that the party would be trying to point the guy to something other than "VP"(barring a nominee who really, really wanted him...) He would potentially be too useful elsewhere to waste on a VP slot.
As for Biden/Harris, just feels sort odd to me. Even if you just had the shots she has taken at Biden so far, how do you really say "Nope, Totally Cool With The Guy. Nothing To See Here."?
Last edited by numberthirty; 08-09-2019 at 09:37 PM.
Please, explain how Warren would be as bad as Trump is. Explain how any of the potential Dem candidates (with chances of victory) could be as bad as what we are experiencing?
I've asked the same question about Hilary many times and NEVER have I gotten a reasonable answer, but this isn't about her now. There's no Clinton in this race.
This is a different case from the plaintiff that filed a suit just before the election. In that case the girl and the recruiter also made depositions to the court about Trump and Epstein raping her. To this date, she has dropped out of the case, allegedly out of fear. I think it is quite telling that Trump or his legal eagles never made a countersuit.