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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    Video: California High-School Students Sang Nazi Song and Gave Hitler Salute

    Athletes performed an homage to the Third Reich before an awards ceremony. Their school won’t say how they were disciplined.

    But hey, antifa something something.
    Freaking Orange County. It’s always been one of the centers of Republican activity in California. Though it went Blue last election there are obviously still a ton of far right voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Don't make a mistake about one thing: while Gabbard is obviously an authoritarian flunky, much of her politics seems driven by anti-Islam bigotry.
    Gabbard's views on Islam are troubling for sure, but I feel like people lately have been way too quick to cast stones at any anti-Muslim activity originating in foreign countries to cast it as some kind of global problem rather than primarily the responsibility of the militant right wing in the West. Of course the attacks by Hindu nationalists on Muslims are wrong and we should condemn them, but let's not pretend that they've caused more than a tiny fraction of the damage and suffering that centuries of British and American imperialism in the Middle East have wrought. Now, perhaps having a Hindu nationalist as the President of the United States would be a terrifying prospect for Muslims everywhere, but that would largely be a product of her being American and having all the resources of our military industrial complex at her back, not because her being Hindu would make her especially hateful toward Muslims in a way that previous American presidents haven't been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    WTF is with this headline? Truck tries to drive into group of Jewish protesters outside ICE detention center



    They can't even say that another fuck nut tried to run down peaceful protesters, just "Truck Tries to". People coddling these maniacs are going to lead to more deaths, not less!
    Something has to be done about these self-driving trucks just up and attacking people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    Video: California High-School Students Sang Nazi Song and Gave Hitler Salute

    Athletes performed an homage to the Third Reich before an awards ceremony. Their school won’t say how they were disciplined.

    But hey, antifa something something.
    Perhaps I’m a hopeless cynic, but if the school won’t say how those little shitstains were disciplined, chances are pretty good they weren’t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    This happened on the 15th. I wonder why there was little coverage of this.
    That darn ol' liberal media.

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    One of the nation’s largest labor groups embraced the Face-Eating Leopard at the start of his presidency, in hopes he would stop eating their faces like he's been doing for as long as he's been in business.
    Honestly, what were they expecting from the guy who's notorious for under-paying, or not paying at all, his contractors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The headline is misleading since he had the option to remove the reference and didn't want to do it.
    Good thing she posted the entire article which states exactly what happened and why, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike-X View Post
    Honestly, what were they expecting from the guy who's notorious for under-paying, or not paying at all, his contractors?
    Maybe they thought Trump would “pivot” into becoming an honest and responsible politician once he became president. Only problem with that argument is that leopards DON’T change their spots, not at his age. Hell, there are entire CITIES like El Paso that have been stiffed by the Grifter-in-Chief who hasn’t paid bills for his visits, so what made those guys think they’d be the exception to the rule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike-X View Post
    Honestly, what were they expecting from the guy who's notorious for under-paying, or not paying at all, his contractors?
    I mean they could have consulted with any union construction crew in New York City. Any one of them would have warned them about working for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike-X View Post
    Something has to be done about these self-driving trucks just up and attacking people.
    Oh man, Skynet has sided with Trump. We're really screwed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike-X View Post
    Something has to be done about these self-driving trucks just up and attacking people.
    I blame those damn go-bots!

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    That darn ol' liberal media.
    Diabolical!

    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    Oh man, Skynet has sided with Trump. We're really screwed now.
    Well Skynet did it's job by setting us against Russia and getting the world to nuke itself . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Watkins View Post
    you mean in the future when Trump has achieved sainthood? i surely hope that society doesn't become so warped that they look back on the current administration as something normal or good.
    I'm not saying he shouldn't make fun of Trump, but is the foreword in the collection of golden age comics the place for it? It's like if say Chuck Dixon was hired to write an intro to the campy Superman stories from the silver age and he stuck in a line like, "Yes, those 60's stories were really crazy...just like Obamacare!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike-X View Post
    Good thing she posted the entire article which states exactly what happened and why, then.
    Enough people don't read the articles that misleading headlines (and there were quite a few about Spiegelman and Marvel) are irresponsible. This is a criticism on the media and not Tami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    I'm not saying he shouldn't make fun of Trump, but is the foreword in the collection of golden age comics the place for it? It's like if say Chuck Dixon was hired to write an intro to the campy Superman stories from the silver age and he stuck in a line like, "Yes, those 60's stories were really crazy...just like Obamacare!"
    Nah. Its a few lines saying "These characters were created to deal with facism, apparently they werent good enough since facism is still here"

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    The part that seems to give offense--although I can't think why--is this part:

    In today’s all too real world, Captain America’s most nefarious villain, the Red Skull, is alive on screen and an Orange Skull haunts America. International fascism again looms large (how quickly we humans forget – study these golden age comics hard, boys and girls!) and the dislocations that have followed the global economic meltdown of 2008 helped bring us to a point where the planet itself seems likely to melt down. Armageddon seems somehow plausible and we’re all turned into helpless children scared of forces grander than we can imagine, looking for respite and answers in superheroes flying across screens in our chapel of dreams.
    He never says Trump. He says "an Orange Skull haunts America." You can think that's Trump, but he doesn't say it--and if you think it's Trump, you're probably a liberal. If you're a Trump conservative then you don't believe that's him--so how can it offend? Personally, calling Trump an Orange Skull misses the mark--someone like Steve Bannon better fits the Red Skull role (or did).

    But the Orange Skull remark is relatively tepid in the context of everything else in that paragraph which is much more desperate. I think a lot of us do feel this way, regardless of politics. And given the political climate that existed for Simon and Kirby--which he describes in the rest of the introduction--it's fitting to talk about that mood. Moreover, it's Art Spiegelman--why hire the guy, if you didn't want his intellectual perspective and his political gravitas to inform the piece? He's not known for sunny little tales of human harmony.
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