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    'Tip of the iceberg': what a Nazi salute video says about Orange county

    In the past year, several high schools in the California county have been engulfed in scandal over racist behavior by some of their white students

    Students have arranged red plastic cups in the shape of a swastika. They’ve held up “We love White” signs. They’ve chanted a Nazi marching song.

    Several high schools in Orange county, California, have been engulfed in scandal in the past year over racist behavior by some of their white students. This week, videos surfaced showing a group of boys from Pacifica high school in Garden Grove doing the Sieg Heil salute and marching with German and Confederate flags.

    The latest controversy has reignited anger and anxiety among Jewish communities and students of color, with many questioning why this keeps happening. To some, the answer is obvious: White supremacy has a long history in Orange county, and officials aren’t taking the threats seriously. The consequences, they say, could be deadly.
    In the 1980s and 1990s, Orange county was known as a recruitment hub for neo-Nazi groups, sometimes resulting in violence and hate crimes. And although it now counts more registered Democrats than Republicans, the county was long one of the blue state’s rightwing strongholds, with xenophobic, racist and homophobic politicians holding some of its top jobs.

    “People have this skewed perspective of California – that it’s liberal, that it’s hippies,” said Melissa Shaw, a former Pacifica high school student, who is Jewish. “That was not my experience in Orange county … I felt like I was running from the neo-Nazis.”

    Experts say the far-right is still active and dangerous in the region. A member of a local militant neo-Nazi group was charged last year for murdering a 19-year-old gay Jewish classmate. The so-called Rise Above Movement (Ram), one of the most prominent white supremacist groups linked to recent violence, is concentrated in Orange county, according to the Anti-Defamation League.
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    There was a good response on Twitter: "All other attendees wonder why too."

    Trump has questioned why he must attend G7

    CNN)President Donald Trump departs late Friday for a summit he's questioned is worth his time.

    This year's G7 gathering, held in seaside France, is Trump's third. It comes amid global economic jitters, tensions from the Mideast to the Indian subcontinent and raging fires in the Amazon.
    But in conversations with aides over the past weeks, Trump has questioned why he must attend, according to people familiar with the conversations. After the past two G7 summits ended acrimoniously, Trump complained about attending a third, saying he didn't view the gathering as a particularly productive use of his time. [He'd rather be golfing]

    He's made similar asides in meetings with other world leaders, including Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and French President Emmanuel Macron, who have encouraged him over the past six months to commit to attending the Biarritz summit, people familiar with the conversations said. Macron is this year's summit host.
    The G7 represents the world's major economies, and has long been a regular stop on the US President's calendar. In small group sessions, with only the leaders and few aides present, the world's major economic and geopolitical problems are discussed at length.

    It's a more workaday style of foreign travel than the type of trip Trump has come to enjoy, which usually include lavish displays of welcome like royal parades or state banquets. It's also a practice in the kind of multilateralism that Trump and his aides have downplayed in favor of one-one-one negotiations with other countries.

    The session's hosts help determine the agenda. Last year's meeting, in a rural Canadian riverside resort, focused on the environment and a proliferation of plastics in the ocean. A year earlier, the assembled leaders collectively worked to convince Trump to remain in the Paris climate accord (he withdrew a month later).

    After those summits, Trump was irked at the lengthy discussions about the environment and oceans, the people familiar said, and felt he wasn't given enough room to tout his achievements as president. Inside the White House, it wasn't clear Trump would commit to attending the this year's G7 until late spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    You picked the one person who actually responded to your post with a denial of violence to respond to with this pack of strawmen.
    I think your reply here just nicely sums up how well you took the time to read my post about potential World War III-levels of violence that you don't seem to want to directly comment on. I hope you take better care of your time to analyze posts better in the future and that your posts reflect that more. Take care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electricmastro View Post
    I think your reply here just nicely sums up how well you took the time to read my post about potential World War III-levels of violence that you don't seem to want to directly comment on. I hope you take better care of your time to analyze posts better in the future and that your posts reflect that more. Take care.
    As far as I can tell, this translates to: "I can't respond to your questions about the most violent actions of anti-fascism or what news sources & analyzers I believe, so I'm going to insinuate you support WW3 which I brought up out of nowhere despite you specifically saying you don't support violence."

    However you can go on trying to claim that anti-fascism will cause WW3 if you want, just note that no one who truly analyzes reality and politics will agree with that assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    How so? I dont feel good about the state of right wing terrorism.
    That's what I was wondering as well, though it seems some people would rather resort to snarky, if unhelpful, posts. Quite a shame. I was looking forward to seeing enlightening posts that could help one better understand the state of the world better, but such is the way of the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electricmastro View Post
    I think your reply here just nicely sums up how well you took the time to read my post about potential World War III-levels of violence that you don't seem to want to directly comment on. I hope you take better care of your time to analyze posts better in the future and that your posts reflect that more. Take care.
    That here is a non-snarky and very helpful post. Let me be the first to thank you for elevating the level of discussion on this fred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    That here is a non-snarky and very helpful post. Let me be the first to thank you for elevating the level of discussion on this fred.
    It's so common to find a snarkless haven of helpfulness on the internet these days, and anyone who has read this thread for more than a day can tell you how free of snark it is don'tchaknow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    It's so common to find a snarkless haven of helpfulness on the internet these days, and anyone who has read this thread for more than a day can tell you how free of snark it is don'tchaknow.
    Snark is basically on the endangered species list. The hunting of the snark has all but eliminated it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    Snark is basically on the endangered species list. The hunting of the snark has all but eliminated it.
    I think it climaxed with the killing of Iron Man aka Tony Snark, and now the Snark Side of the Force has become nearly extinct. These are the times in which we live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    I think it climaxed with the killing of Iron Man aka Tony Snark, and now the Snark Side of the Force has become nearly extinct. These are the times in which we live.
    Only the raiders of the lost snark can help us now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    That here is a non-snarky and very helpful post. Let me be the first to thank you for elevating the level of discussion on this fred.
    Ok, I think you're getting a little weirdly obsessive about this seeing as how you've made multiple posts in a row here about this...

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    On this date in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, as well as 2018, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" published profiles of the U.S. House Representative from Michigan’s 7th District, Tim Walberg, a pastor and "family values" Republican once learned he had a staffer on his payroll who was arrested and plead guilty on child abuse charges, and yet it took six weeks from the point Walberg learned about it to give the guy a pink slip. This wacky pastor's own political resume also includes cAlling for the impeachment of President Obama over his birth certificate, making comparisons between Democrats and Joseph Stalin over birth control coverage in the Affordable Care Act, has declared gay marriage as something that puts all of society at risk, has spoken on behalf of the Almighty itself on abortion, and claimed that Americans are in a moral crsis where they are slaves to football and pornography. Walberg's voting record is, hands down, one of the most socially conservative in Congress (go figure, seeing that from a pastor). Honestly, that should be abundantly clear, because after the Supreme Court ruled on same sex marriage, Tim Walberg released a statement making his opinion clear... he believes gay people being able to get married is a violation of HIS First Amendment rights.
    Another sad example of someone misplacing their priorities while criticizing others, even though they're the ones that need the criticism the most. Hope he never hurts anyone else ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electricmastro View Post
    Ok, I think you're getting a little weirdly obsessive about this seeing as how you've made multiple posts in a row here about this...


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    We were just having a lil fun. No reason to get snarky about it, Sparky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    We were just having a lil fun. No reason to get snarky about it, Sparky.
    It's not even Snark Week 2019, jeeze. That reminds me though, I should totally visit Central Snark when I eventually make it to New York City.

    Quote Originally Posted by Electricmastro View Post
    Another sad example of someone misplacing their priorities while criticizing others, even though they're the ones that need the criticism the most. Hope he never hurts anyone else ever again.
    As the man in question is still in office, it seems doubtful that he will avoid harming anyone else over the next year with his votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    It's not even Snark Week 2019, jeeze.
    I’m puzzled. Wasn’t that last month?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    I’m puzzled. Wasn’t that last month?
    You're thinking of Snarktober.
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