All Purpose News and Politics Thread Part IV: The Center Cannot Hold

[PaulBullion]

He keeps going on and on. And is sounding more and more like a confused old man in a nursing home.

[4saken1]

Trump isn’t ‘getting away’ with anything

You do make a good point! I tend to be very pessimistic, especially in gauging the intelligence of the American public. I have seen many conservatives pointing out how Obama had similar approval ratings during this point in his first term. But then again, the economy wasn't booming at that time, either. It is very possible that if the economic numbers aren't at their current levels by next November that Trump might have a hard time being reelected.

[Tami]

Trump says Obama asked foreign leaders for dirt on Trump and the proof is in various books that he has read

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[Celgress]

Didn't watch the whole video, but I think that I got the gist of it. Big nope! Biden did what leaders from several Western countries were also calling for. He had no need to pressure them to stop investigating the company that his son worked for because the investigation was already dormant for several years. If there's any other poignant information in there, feel free to note where I should start watching.

You may feel this way but will everyone else? We shall see, in time.

[InformationGeek]

Oh boy... sounds like Trump is dragging Pence into this by volunteering his phone calls as well.

[Theleviathan]

Who's really blaming Dems for this? I can see getting mad they hadn't started towards impeachment as that's been a grumble for a long while now, but are people really blaming the Dems for Moscow Mitch's refusal to allow votes on these bills?

Maybe I'm misreading it, but it did seem like WBE was implying that leaderships lack of accomplishments were getting people to turn on Dems for doing nothing.

kidfresh isn't wrong - all this outrage needs to start turning into election wins. Hell, if not for the success of 2018 we wouldn't even be able to talk about whether impeachment is a good idea or not. I feel, too often, that liberals let their issue-driven, righteous indignation get in the way of winning some god damn elections.

Be nice to end that and send many, many Republicans to defeats.

[Tami]

Tulsi Gabbard: "Transcript doesn't show 'compelling' case for impeachment" OK this is nuts. She's not as subtle as Jill Stein

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[Celgress]

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I think this is going to be another problem. The lack of unity on the Left when it comes to messaging.

[Tami]

I think this is going to be another problem. The lack of unity on the Left when it comes to messaging.

It's not messaging. The Majority of Dems are on the same page, Tulsi Gabbard is just reading from the wrong book. I agree with many of the comments, she is no Democrat.

[worstblogever]

Trump says Obama asked foreign leaders for dirt on Trump and the proof is in various books that he has read

Check out the replies.

Oh boy... sounds like Trump is dragging Pence into this by volunteering his phone calls as well.

He just ended a press conference by pretending he can fire Nancy Pelosi as House Speaker.

NAILED IT.

[Celgress]

It's not messaging. The Majority of Dems are on the same page, Tulsi Gabbard is just reading from the wrong book. I agree with many of the comments, she is no Democrat.

The Left is very fragmented (the Far Lef hates Pelosi for example). All you need do is look on Social Media to see that. The Right by way of contrast has a far greater unity of message (other than a very few Never Trumpers) they are solidly behind Trump.

Edit - You might say she isn't a Democrat but Tulsi is part of the party and has not been expelled so technically you're wrong. I think she should be thrown out but they haven't done so.

[Tami]

The Left is very fragmented (the Far Lef hates Pelosi for example). All you need do is look on Social Media to see that. The Right by way of contrast has a far greater unity of message (other than a very few Never Trumpers) they are solidly behind Trump.

Edit - You might say she isn't a Democrat but Tulsi is part of the party and has not been expelled so technically you're wrong. I think she should be thrown out but they haven't done so.

Dems don't do that lightly. The Democrats are the Party of inclusion, so it's goes against the grain to push someone out.

[Celgress]

Dems don't do that lightly. The Democrats are the Party of inclusion, so it's goes against the grain to push someone out.

Which, I hate to say it, can be a weakness. Every political party needs unity to maximize its effectiveness. In any soci-political system that is how things get done.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Trump says Obama asked foreign leaders for dirt on Trump and the proof is in various books that he has read

Check out the replies.

Gotta love Twitter snark. It’s outrageous!

Oh boy... sounds like Trump is dragging Pence into this by volunteering his phone calls as well.

No surprise there. If Trump goes down, he won’t go alone.

Which, I hate to say it, can be a weakness. Every political party needs unity to maximize its effectiveness. In any soci-political system that is how things get done.

You mean the GOP’s Borg-like, hive mind mentality where dissent or differing opinions are not allowed and Faux News brainwashed lemmings pull any lever with an ‘R’ next to the candidate’s name? Nope, I’ll pass on that.

[Robotman]

He just ended a press conference by pretending he can fire Nancy Pelosi as House Speaker.

NAILED IT.

If that doesn’t deserve a Pelsoi “fuck you” clap I don’t know what does.

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