All Purpose News and Politics Thread Part IV: The Center Cannot Hold

[jetengine]

Americans spend too much time fretting about 'someone' getting 'something' that they think someone else doesn't 'deserve', except the wealthy who obviously deserve their untold billions of dollars for 'reasons'.

Yeah, rather then thinking "My money built a hospital that I and my friends can use free of charge" its always "Someone is STEALING MY MONEY"

[Tendrin]

Yeah, rather then thinking "My money built a hospital that I and my friends can use free of charge" its always "Someone is STEALING MY MONEY"

I still regularly roll my eyes at people who squeal 'taxation is theft!".

[Mister Mets]

This is the second time I've seen Paul Ryan's name come up. It was mentioned on MSNBC that he is for breaking the close ties Fox has with Trump. He's another Trump enabler though and IMO he was another one who never spoke out when he should have. I guess this is one way for him to get some revenge after having to bite his tongue and go along with everything. But IMO, it's cowardly way.

There is the point that Paul Ryan seems to feel he has more power as a member of the board at Fox News than he did as Speaker of the House.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

I still regularly roll my eyes at people who squeal 'taxation is theft!".

And I would imagine most of those people cheer for Trump who either cheats on his taxes, or doesn't pay them at all.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

There is the point that Paul Ryan seems to feel he has more power as a member of the board at Fox News than he did as Speaker of the House.

Well, with Faux News struggling to cover the impeachment chatter without pissing off Trump and sniping between on air hosts (Shep Smith vs. Fucker Carlson), let's see how much power Eddie Munster can actually wield, or if Murdoch's son will pull the rug out from under him.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Never concede ground to the right in an attempt to win over fence sitters, and "reasonable" right-wingers.

Part of the reason why centrist policies of the past are perceived as extremely left-wing today is because the Democrats kept moving to the right, while the Republicans moved to the far right.



Per Obama himself, in the 1980s he'd be considered a moderate Republican.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/2...lican-in-1980s

[Tendrin]

And I would imagine most of those people cheer for Trump who either cheats on his taxes, or doesn't pay them at all.

At least some of those people see it as 'getting one over on the government' in ways they wish they could. There's a lot of toxic-masculine wish fulfillment there.

[aja_christopher]

I want to see Warren get attacked hard on an area she's not comfortable with before I say I'd be okay with her. How she handled the native american ancestry thing was incredibly blunt and inartful and she stuck with that approach long past it should have become clear it wasn't working. Personally I would have been all for Biden 4 years ago. But for all the heat Castro got for attacking Biden's age, Biden really doesn't seem as sharp as he used to be, and his bad habits show up more often partially due to an overabundance of pride.

Booker sounds more like a cloud of cotton candy than a presidential candidate, though I respect the hell out of his time as mayor.

Personally, I think Buttigieg is the best bet of safe and bold for the nomination, and I like the balls Beto is letting swing free as he runs around nowadays.

I want to see Kamala and/or Beto go up against Trump -- preferably both.



When Republicans aren't held accountable for their immorality and illegality, they only get worse.

[InformationGeek]

It's little Tim Apple all over again. The man never, never, never lets anything go.

To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word little wrong. A small but never ending situation with CNN!

Also, he spelled "describing" wrong and used the word hyphen instead of apostrophe.


WBE! Are you still with us? How is Trump's profile coming along? Still having trouble updating it for this year?

[Tami]

Oh no, we'd never dream of doing that (Quick, House Dems, Get the Phone Transcripts from the Vault!)

This is the Kremlin's cute way of reminding Trump who owns whom

Twitter Link

Kremlin says it hopes U.S. would not release Trump-Putin calls, like it did with Ukraine

MOSCOW — Russia has voiced hope that the U.S. administration wouldn't publish private conversations between the two nations' presidents, like it did with Ukraine.

The rough transcript of Trump's call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy released by the White House Wednesday shows that Trump urged Ukraine to "look into" his Democratic political rival Joe Biden. The July 25 call is now the focus of a U.S. impeachment probe.

Asked Friday if Moscow is worried that the White House could similarly publish transcripts of Trump's calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that "we would like to hope that it wouldn't come to that in our relations, which are already troubled by a lot of problems."

[Mister Mets]

Never concede ground to the right in an attempt to win over fence sitters, and "reasonable" right-wingers.

Part of the reason why centrist policies of the past are perceived as extremely left-wing today is because the Democrats kept moving to the right, while the Republicans moved to the far right.



Per Obama himself, in the 1980s he'd be considered a moderate Republican.

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/2...lican-in-1980s

In what concrete ways have Democrats moved right? What are they willing to spend less money on than in the 80s? What protected classes from the 1980s have lost legal protections?

[Mister Mets]

I want to see Kamala and/or Beto go up against Trump -- preferably both.



When Republicans aren't held accountable for their immorality and illegality, they only get worse.

Beto makes a lot of sense as a running mate for Harris, but she is currently in the single-digits in primary polls.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

It's little Tim Apple all over again. The man never, never, never lets anything go.

Of course not. Trump is still nursing a grudge against the NFL for the antitrust case he lost to the league....IN 1987!!

[aja_christopher]

Beto makes a lot of sense as a running mate for Harris, but she is currently in the single-digits in primary polls.

I didn't say I cared about polls -- I said I want to see Republicans held accountable for their immoral and criminal actions.

Preferably with long jail sentences since that's the only thing that seems to hinder Republican corruption.

[4saken1]

In what concrete ways have Democrats moved right? What are they willing to spend less money on than in the 80s? What protected classes from the 1980s have lost legal protections?

Moderate Democrats take a more 'tough on crime' stance than liberals. They take a more offensive roll in trying to weed out terrorists in other countries (often succeeding in creating more), they don't necessarily believe in universal healthcare or 'free' college because of perceived costs. They might be inclined to make it a little harder for criminals to get their hands on guns, but aren't about abolishing the Second Amendment. They want tougher border security. One of the things that makes it harder to gauge is the fact that the far left has gone ever farther in that direction, too! 30 years ago, you didn't see that many people openly embracing Socialism.