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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Well, last week, a carrier task group had been sent to the Gulf regarding some nebulous bullshit about Iran having stoked tensions or some other nonsense that, as far as I know, hasn't been fully explained to anyone, least of all Congress whom the Trump administration has been giving the middle finger to for weeks now. Yeah, that could well make for a juicy diversion. As for immigrant kids disappearing into the sex trafficking trade, I haven't heard anything on that score, but I wouldn't be the lest bit surprised if that hasn't already happened.
    I've seen a few articles awhile ago that said that they couldn't reach the children that were taken into custody by the border patrol and there was no traceability of wherethose children were at the time. Lots of associations were afraid those children would just disappear into sex traffic rings. Then, nothing. It's been a few months ago so I wondered what happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    What Aja said.
    Politely, I'm going to have to disagree with the idea that "Dictionary" definitions that the two of you agree on actually apply to the reality of what is happening.

    On paper, I would totally agree with that a white nationalist and a white separatist are not exactly the same thing.

    The problem is that the difference has nothing to do with the reality that I see.

    Richard Spencer? Everything coming out of that guy's mouth is absolutely "White Separatist". That said, he is smart enough to know that he has to say that he is a "White Nationalist".

    Me? I'm not going to ignore what "White Nationalist" actually means there in an attempt to try to enforce dictionary definitions on a situation where they don't really apply.

    If you see that differently or don't buy into that Spencer's "White Nationalism" has to be Trump's "White Nationalism, to each his(or her) own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    The problem is that the difference has nothing to do with the reality that I see.
    Which is the same "reality" that led to you not voting against an overt racist like Trump, then turning around and trying to put the blame on Hillary.

    Just because he knows better than to say it out loud doesn't mean he doesn't believe it -- "plausible deniability" only works if it's credible in the face of evidence.

    Keep making excuses though -- it's your democracy to lose at this point and the Republicans are going all in while you sit here arguing over semantics.

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    White nationalists seek to return to an America that predates the implementation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. Both landmark pieces of legislation are cited as the harbingers of white dispossession and so-called “white genocide” — the idea that whites in the United States are being systematically replaced and destroyed."

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...te-nationalist
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Politely, I'm going to have to disagree with the idea that "Dictionary" definitions that the two of you agree on actually apply to the reality of what is happening.

    On paper, I would totally agree with that a white nationalist and a white separatist are not exactly the same thing.

    The problem is that the difference has nothing to do with the reality that I see.

    Richard Spencer? Everything coming out of that guy's mouth is absolutely "White Separatist". That said, he is smart enough to know that he has to say that he is a "White Nationalist".

    Me? I'm not going to ignore what "White Nationalist" actually means there in an attempt to try to enforce dictionary definitions on a situation where they don't really apply.

    If you see that differently or don't buy into that Spencer's "White Nationalism" has to be Trump's "White Nationalism, to each his(or her) own.
    None of this actually matters. While you're busy parsing the difference between Spencer and Trump, Trump is separating families at the border, banning Muslim immigration, backing a variety of other indisputably racist projects. He doesn't have to have the exact same Platform as Spencer to be a white nationalist. It really just doesn't matter. The reality of what is happening is that we have a white nationalist president.

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    While this one wasn't huge news, it's worth taking note of...

    https://www.rollcall.com/news/campai...mpaign-history

    Bernie 2020 becomes first unionized presidential campaign in history

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    Which is the same "reality" that led to you not voting against an overt racist like Trump, then turning around and trying to put the blame on Hillary.

    Just because he knows better than to say it out loud doesn't mean he doesn't believe it -- "plausible deniability" only works if it's credible in the face of evidence.
    To be honest, I have no idea why Trump keeps his blatant white nationalism under wraps. Everyone already knows Trump's a flat out racist, has been for decades, hell, bring up the Central Park Five, and he'll once again rant and rave that they should've been executed, even though evidence showed they were innocent. If Trump came right out today and publicly admitted that he supports Neo-Nazis and the like, his base would eat it up like starving people at a buffet and love him even more than they do now, and his approval numbers might actually go up, not down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    To be honest, I have no idea why Trump keeps his blatant white nationalism under wraps.
    Ask Steve King -- it's okay to be a white nationalist in the Republican party so long as you aren't too open about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    To be honest, I have no idea why Trump keeps his blatant white nationalism under wraps. Everyone already knows Trump's a flat out racist, has been for decades, hell, bring up the Central Park Five, and he'll once again rant and rave that they should've been executed, even though evidence showed they were innocent. If Trump came right out today and publicly admitted that he supports Neo-Nazis and the like, his base would eat it up like starving people at a buffet and love him even more than they do now, and his approval numbers might actually go up, not down.
    Frankly, this is why I think that calling out Republicans for being racist is a bit counterproductive these days. It's clear that none of them actually mind that label, and if anything they wear it as a badge of honor for successfully owning the libs or some other nonsense. Instead, we need to start hitting them where it actually hurts them, exposing them for being weak, insecure, wholly un-alpha losers. Maybe punching Richard Spencer wasn't called for, but it did successfully banish him from the public sphere for good, because once his supporters saw him getting clocked by some beta lib cuck and not even retaliate in kind, it killed whatever credibility he had with his supporters.

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    Hotez responded that he doesn't "take a dime from the vaccine industry" and that as a "Texas pediatrician-scientist" vaccine exemptions are "most certainly my business."

    Stickland responded minutes later, calling Hotez's profession "sorcery."



    "Make the case for your sorcery to consumers on your own dime," he tweeted. "Like every other business. Quit using the heavy hand of government to make your business profitable through mandates and immunity. It's disgusting."
    Oh WBE-EEEEEeeeeeee...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ist-of-sorcery

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    House committee votes to hold Attorney General Barr in contempt

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/08/hous...er-report.html

    https://news.yahoo.com/house-judicia...202200206.html

    Even if the House votes to hold Barr in contempt, will the Republican-controlled Senate follow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsubou View Post
    House committee votes to hold Attorney General Barr in contempt

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/08/hous...er-report.html

    https://news.yahoo.com/house-judicia...202200206.html

    Even if the House votes to hold Barr in contempt, will the Republican-controlled Senate follow?
    The SIC subpoenaed Junior.

    I think the end is near.

    The WH has to fight off both houses and parties now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    The SIC subpoenaed Junior.

    I think the end is near.

    The WH has to fight off both houses and parties now.
    Yeah that shocked me more than anything else in the last couple days, which is saying something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
    Yeah that shocked me more than anything else in the last couple days, which is saying something.
    I take nothing this Republican Party does as in good faith. Period.

    Meanwhile....

    https://rewire.news/ablc/2019/05/09/...to-the-uterus/

    Fresh off the heels of passing one of the most restrictive abortion bans in the country, lawmakers in Ohio seem eager to continue chipping away at abortion access.

    Enter Ohio Rep. John Becker, aka This Fucking Guy: a Republican who has sponsored a bill that literally defies science. In defending his bill, Rep. Becker has claimed that contraceptives cause abortion (they don’t) and that ectopic pregnancies—in which the embryo implants somewhere other than the uterus, usually the fallopian tube—can be fixed by simply sticking the errant embryo back in the pregnant person’s uterus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    The SIC subpoenaed Junior.

    I think the end is near.

    The WH has to fight off both houses and parties now.
    There are 47 democrats in the Senate so it will take at least twenty Republicans to make way for impeachment of President Trump.

    47 Democrats + 20 Republicans = 67 (two-thirds) majority required to impeach the POTUS

    Assuming some Republicans will join the Democrats in impeaching Barr or Trump, I wonder which of those two gents will last longer in office? Barr or Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    I take nothing this Republican Party does as in good faith. Period.

    Meanwhile....

    https://rewire.news/ablc/2019/05/09/...to-the-uterus/
    Two people I've been profiling as nut-bars for years. Like, it's at least a relief when these morons keep it up, because it makes more all the more certain I'm not being unfair in profiling them.
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