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    Quote Originally Posted by zinderel View Post
    Yeah, that's pretty much my point. Sure, it's cheaper than switching to solar/wind/hydro in the short run. Sure it's 'safer' than fossil fuels - as long as everything runs perfectly and goes off without a hitch, that is - but the long term risks of nuclear energy and waste are also a thing that proponents of nuclear energy regularly fail to address.

    Not to mention that fossil fuels generally took years of buildup before their impact on the the globe is felt. But a leak in a coolant tower has permanently affected the entire planet in a matter of moments...several times over, now...
    It's(nuclear) just extra complications for no really good reason.

    If you are looking at how much it costs, you've lost the forest while you've been looking at the trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    Does any cost/benefit analysis of nuclear power include how much it costs to keep nuclear waste safe from stuff like terrorists and earthquakes for 80,000 years? It seems like borrowing money from our ancestors to consider it "cheap" in any way. And the measures taken to protect it for tens of thousands of years also don't come without a carbon footprint.
    There might be a better way for nuclear with Thorium-Fluoride reactors. The waste only last for a few decades, the reactors are less prone to meltdown, and the fuel is more common than uranium - and it is very difficult to make nuclear weapons with it (which is why the technology wasn't pursued during the cold war). Hopefully the projects underway work - we need to hit the problem of emissions from every possible angle.
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    On this date in 2015, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" ran a profile of Tim Bearden, a former member of the Georgia House of Representatives who immediately upon entering office, began work to try and that the Confederate flag put back on the Georgia state flag. Yes, Bearden was a member of the Sons of the Confederacy tried to gin up support for himself by pushing for various anti-immigrant bills as well, and even expressed concerns that the paranoid conspiracy theory of NAFTA leading to a North American Union would come to pass. Bearden also loved to tout his love of the 2nd Amendment, once drawing the attention of the TSA after boasting he would walk into Hartsfeld-Jackson Airport in Atlanta packing heat just to prove how committed he was. Bearden's status began to wane, however, after several ethics complaints were lodged against him for accepting six-figure sums from municipalities for being a "consultant" without doing any work began to emerge. We wish we could say Bearden's career as a legislator came to an end due to a loss in an election, but it actually was the fact that he was granted a job by Gov. Nathan Deal to train people at the Department of Public Safety. Yes, a paranoid, Neo-Confederate, anti-immigrant kook who once tried walking into an airport with a gun to prove a point was employed to teach people about public safety.

    In 2016, and in 2017, and 2018, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” presented profiles of Michigan State Sentor Tom Casperson, who gained some notoriety for his reaction to the Flint Water Crisis. As the Michigan state legislature’s Republicans relented, and begrudgingly approved $30 million in aid to go towards Flint (which falls well short of what they’ll need to fix their seriously damaged plumbing infrastructure), Casperson took to the floor of the chamber to give a passionate defense of poor, poor Gov. Rick Snyder. He did not, however, choose his words wisely, acknowledging “mistakes were made” but comparing some of the vitriolic attacks on Snyder to “a poison in the heart, a poison of the spirit.” This after the Snyder administration had LITERALLLY POISONED PEOPLE. Casperson continued his rant, claiming people were unfairly“crucifying” Snyder, as well. Of course, that isn’t the only time Casperson has had a major gaffe on the floor of the State Senate. Back in 2013, he gave a fictionalized account where he claimed a pre-school had been beset by three wolves “multiple times” just after children had come in from the playground. The original story involved zero children, and only one wolf. Casperson was forced to apologize, but based on his speech, the legislature already had voted to send a resolution to Congress try and get gray wolves removed from the Endangered Species List because they were “so dangerous”. If you’re still not getting the idea, Casperson is also a Birther, who in an interview on a local radio show talked about how he “wasn’t sure if President Obama was born in the United States”, and felt there was some bias, and that if the same controversy had surrounded, say, President Bush, the media would have never let it go. Casperson’s voting record includes support for HB 4745, which would allow medical professionals to deny healthcare services based on their “religious, moral, and ethical beliefs” (Because that should supersede the Hippocratic Oath), opposition to HB 6048, which would have allowed victims of rape and sexual assault to be provided access to emergency contraception, and support for HB 5697, also known as the “rape insurance law” which would force Michigan women to provide their own insurance plan to provide medical services if they want medical care due to a miscarriage or abortion… without any exception for rape. Casperson, also was the sponsor of SB 926, a bill which would have criminalized flying a drone anywhere near a hunter trying to bring down big game to try and scare off their quarry. (There were exactly zero reported incidences of anyone doing this when he drafted the bill.) J[He also has repeatedly voted for bills to attempt to begin drug testing welfare recipients, and voted for HB 4188, a bill to allow adoption agencies to refuse to allow couples to adopt children based on their own “religious beliefs”. It was a bit unnerving to find out that Tom Casperson was running for U.S. House in 2016, trying to get elected to represent Michigan’s 1st Congressional District, but he was mercifully defeated by Jack Bergman in the GOP Primary for that seat. As such, Casperson had to return to the Michigan State Senate, but in 2018, he was term-limited, and during his last term in office he became the target of an investigation by the FBI into politicians being bribed by a towing company, and in wiretaps, those who have been charged were recorded discussing paying off Casperson. All we know is, we’re relieved that Tom Casperon is no longer in office and we’ll set aside his profile and we’ll move on to profile a different kooky Republican on this date instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 744-40, since this was established in July 2014.)


    John Moore

    Welcome to the 744th original “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” profile, where today we’ll be discussing John Moore, a former member of the Mississippi House of Representatives from 1995-2017. While when Moore turned in his resignation, he claimed it was due to “health reasons”, but Mississippi House Speaker Philip Gunn said that Moore’s medical condition actually was a chronic case of being a horny d***-weasel who sexually harassed a number of women in the state capitol over the two decades he was in office. (Moore also ducked out of an interview with the media when they started asking questions by claiming he had to take a phone call from his wife, who admittedly probably has questions of her own.)

    In the interests of not making Moore’s profile all about him being brought down by the #MeToo movement, we’ll note that during his legislative career, he also co-sponsored legislation to expand the ways people could get exemptions from having to vaccinate their children, to legalize prayer in schools (despite what the Separation of Church and State says about that), and to authorize people to carry guns into houses of religious worship. He also voted for legislation to suppress the vote with stricter unnecessary voter ID laws that curb the non-existent problem of in-person voter fraud, voted against minimum wage increases, and was such a hardliner on abortion that he voted for exceptions for victims of rape or incest on any and all anti-choice legislation that he supported.

    He will not be missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinderel View Post
    Amen. Here in Portland, I've been seeing some cooption of Celtic religion and mythology into white supremacy too and I just...want to grab them and shake them and remind them that once, us Irish folk weren't 'white' enough, either!!
    I know about Irish not need apply. I read about the anti-Irish sentiment in America. President Chester Arthur would rather tell the public he was Canadian than admit he was Irish.

    The Irish people may have been oppressed by Anglo-Saxon Protestants but they did join the white supremacy club.

    Irish Americans rioted and lynched Black Americans in Chicago. One of the rioters was the future Chicago mayor Richard J. Daley, the father of William Daley who served as President Obama's chief of staff.

    Irish immigrants took part in New York draft riots and lynched Black Americans.

    Irish immigrants rioted and drove Greek immigrants out of Omaha in Nebraska

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Town_riot

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    Latest Attacks On Ilhan Omar Show That Anti-Muslim Hate Isnít A Partisan Issue

    As members of the GOP perpetuate anti-Muslim harassment toward the congresswoman, Democratic leadership has been eerily silent. My take: Democrats never had to deal with a Muslim in that level of government and don't know how to handle Omar who so far, has refused to toe the party line. One thing's for certain, being tepid in their defense of Omar lends credence that Democrats are leaving her out to dry and be savaged by Republicans, and that's wrong. Meanwhile....

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    Rashida Tlaib Slams Democrats For Silence On Trumpís Islamophobic Attacks On Ilhan Omar

    The Michigan congresswoman has a message for Democratic leaders: Donít celebrate diversity while ignoring Islamophobia. Good to know someone is defending Omar when Dems won't, which is just what Trump and Republicans want.

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    Trump Declares ĎAbsolute Rightí To Send Undocumented Immigrants To Sanctuary Cities

    In a baseless tweet Saturday night, Trump ordered for undocumented immigrants to be moved for political retaliation. My take: Trump is hoping that all those imaginary rapists and killers he rants and raves about will wind up in sanctuary cities to raise hell so he can puff out his chest and boast about how he was right about the "evils" of illegal immigrants.

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    Conservatives Are Trying To Claim Pete Buttigieg Isnít Actually A Christian

    Evangelical leaders want to discredit the kind of progressive Christianity that the Democratic mayor advocates. Lemme guess, those blatant hypocrites who openly support a two-time divorcee and known adulterer as president have their collective panties in a bunch because Mayor Pete is gay.

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    Laura Ingraham Laughs, Jokes While Covering Nipsey Hussleís Funeral

    The Fox News host played a clip of YGís anti-Trump song that featured the late rapper. Disgusting bitch. I'll readily admit I never heard of Mr. Hussle until he had been gunned down, but for Ignoramus to make jokes at his expense is just plain evil, but predictable for the sort of scum who foul the airwaves on Faux News.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    It's(nuclear) just extra complications for no really good reason.

    If you are looking at how much it costs, you've lost the forest while you've been looking at the trees.
    Man, 30...are we...are we...AGREEING on stuff? *offers a rum-soaked high five*
    There is no such thing as an ethical Republican anymore. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
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    Rashida Tlaib Slams Democrats For Silence On Trumpís Islamophobic Attacks On Ilhan Omar

    The Michigan congresswoman has a message for Democratic leaders: Donít celebrate diversity while ignoring Islamophobia. Good to know someone is defending Omar when Dems won't, which is just what Trump and Republicans want.

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    When Marc Lamont Hill is having to call Pelosi out, that is a pretty sad state of affairs.

    You've got a Rolling Stone cover? Pelosi will be there. Front and center.

    Something like this where some actual leadership would be the right move? Not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinderel View Post
    Man, 30...are we...are we...AGREEING on stuff? *offers a rum-soaked high five*
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    “Cats and dogs! Living together!”
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    Lol. RIGHT!? Jeezumcrow, I've imbibed way more than usual. This world of ours, man...makes me wanna just become Jack Sparrow (or...whoever the less Johnny Deppish pirate du jour is) and pretend that none of this crap is happening and we're all united against the damn British again...

    At least we knew who our enemy was, then...unlike now, when they run the country and no one cares because SURVIVOR is on...

    Well...the world, or the rum...either way...*goes back to drunkenly watching THE MAGICIANS in order to not think anymore*
    There is no such thing as an ethical Republican anymore. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinderel View Post
    Man, 30...are we...are we...AGREEING on stuff? *offers a rum-soaked high five*
    Well...

    There, I'm just not seeing the whole "Nuclear is cheaper..." take.

    That's before you even get into the future of improvements in each technology, and what the comparison will look like when those improvements have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Well...

    There, I'm just not seeing the whole "Nuclear is cheaper..." take.

    That's before you even get into the future of improvements in each technology, and what the comparison will look like when those improvements have happened.
    Anyone who thinks nuclear energy is the solution hasn't been paying attention to the world in the last 75+ years or so. Between Chernobyl, 3 Mile Island and Fukushima (which as I understand is STILL affecting the planet thanks to the ocean taking the toxic waste and radiation from that horror show global thanks to currents) - not to mention Lake Karachay (where spending an hour could be enough to kill you) and Russia's rumored Endgame plans for that toxic waste dump - we have plenty of evidence that nuclear energy is too risky to put all our ducks in that basket. And that is without mentioning that all the nuke testing pre- and post- WW2 have affected global health in measurable ways...there is evidence that radiation in the atmosphere, and in the food and soil and water, due to those tests may be responsible for the global obesity epidemic. Or at least a contributing factor. Who knew that irradiating our food, water, air and soil might have side effects!? Goddamn liberals, ruining everything for good, honest, God-fearing Americans with their science and their 'consequences for actions'...

    I'm SURE that all of this is cheaper to deal with than shifting to wind/solar/hydro power.../s
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    When Marc Lamont Hill is having to call Pelosi out, that is a pretty sad state of affairs.

    You've got a Rolling Stone cover? Pelosi will be there. Front and center.

    Something like this where some actual leadership would be the right move? Not so much.
    Where was your talk of "leadership" when Sanders didn't release his tax returns?

    Where was your talk of "leadership" when he failed to address sexual harassment during his campaign in 2016?

    Where was his "leadership" on addressing racial issues in the last election while running against a man he now admits is a racist?

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    "Pelosi admonishes Trump for using 9/11 video to criticize Ilhan Omar"

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/polit...-11/index.html

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    "Sanders' evolution on race may not have come soon enough"

    Bernie Sanders' biggest selling point in 2016 was that he was the only person in the Democratic primary running not named Hillary Clinton.

    2020 won't be that way. And to be successful, he'll have to earn every vote he can get.

    This field will be massive, and in many ways, everyone is running as not Hillary Clinton (note Amy Klobuchar and Beto O'Rourke's digs at Clinton in their Wisconsin appearances). And while he certainly pushed the party left on a number of issues, including health care and college tuition, it's the Democratic Party that has pushed Sanders to the left on race and identity.

    So, where does that leave Sanders, particularly with African-American voters, the key group that he struggled with against Clinton? In South Carolina, he lost by nearly 50 points (50!) -- and Clinton won 87% of the black vote.

    That smackdown ended up being a preview of how Sanders would do throughout the delegate-rich South, highlighting weaknesses in the top echelons of his campaign team, which was largely white and male. Aides from 2016 say that they had a plan to reach black voters, but were largely ignored. Some also complain that they were often treated as tokens or props, particularly after Sanders was shouted down by a group of Black Lives Matter protesters at an event in Seattle...

    Sanders is a Democratic socialist who has been hesitant to talk about race and showed a disdain for identity politics on one hand while never acknowledging it on the other hand.

    "I wouldn't say so much he has evolved as many more lessons learned," Turner said. "He listens, he is a student of the game. He sees a lot as class-based, it's his predominate lens but it's not his only lens."

    In 2016, Sanders was hesitant to call Trump a racist during a debate with Clinton. But during a recent trip to South Carolina to honor the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr, he called him a racist.

    "Has he learned lessons since 2016, yes," said Symone Sanders, the national press secretary for Sanders' 2016 bid. "He has been actively working since 2016 to reach out to various communities to be on the ground and listen to folks. He has been to South Carolina a few times, which is really important. But some of the language is going to be problematic."

    Indeed, his comments about diversity and racism in a recent GQ magazine article drew the ire of black progressives. He suggested that some of his opponents "think that all that we need is people who are candidates who are black or white, who are black or Latino or woman or gay, regardless of what they stand for, that the end result is diversity."

    Symone Sanders disagreed.

    "Nobody is saying that, and in a race where there are Latinos and women and black women, people will use it against him," Sanders said. "I don't care how many times you go to South Carolina. You say things like you said to GQ because you think it's appealing, it's alienating to some folks. As a young black millennial, I don't like hearing it because it speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding about race and gender and what people are looking for."

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/polit...020/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post

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    "Pelosi admonishes Trump for using 9/11 video to criticize Ilhan Omar"

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/polit...-11/index.html

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    You realize that this is the exact garbage that Hill and Tlaib were calling out, right?

    Here is Hill's exact Tweet calling it out...

    - https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/s...43201423085568

    Having to do the same with O'Rourke...

    - https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/s...54546986115072

    Pointing out that Sanders managed to actually address it...

    - https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/s...53927055417344

    Pointing out the specific responsibility that Pelosi has here...

    - https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/s...62855667400706

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    You realize that this is the exact garbage that Hill and Tlaib were calling out, right?
    What I "realize" is that you're quick to hypocritically call out everyone but your "pet" candidates -- like Sanders -- for their faults and it does nothing positive for the party as a whole when you try to sabotage the leadership of the party.

    I remember you calling out Hillary for not supporting BLM and when I posted the link of the mothers speaking on behalf of her campaign, you disappeared from sight and didn't even have the common decency to admit that you were wrong.

    Same goes for people like you not voting "against" Trump -- which is one of the main reasons we are where we are today.

    Having a preferred candidate is one thing but trying to sabotage the Democratic party is another -- maybe when you start addressing Sanders' lack of "leadership" on key issues as adamantly as everyone else's I'll be able to take you seriously as anything other than someone who will attack the Democratic party unless he gets his way on how the party is run.

    It's telling that you said you liked Carter -- I like Carter too, but despite his best intentions, his politics were not successful on the national stage, especially in comparison to both Clinton and Obama.

    Sanders couldn't even get that far without running as "Democrat" and still lost by millions of votes in the primary.

    Stop trying to force a losing strategy on the rest of the Democratic party.
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    Nuclear is not "cheaper".
    https://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear-power/cost-nuclear-power
    Takes massive public subsidies
    https://www.taxpayer.net/energy-natu...wer-subsidies/
    And the problem of nuclear waste that is radioactive for eons has not been solved.

    It's funny that free market conservatives back the one alternative energy that takes the most Government funding.
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