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    Quote Originally Posted by your_name_here View Post
    Just wondered...what are people’s thoughts on this event? I always see mixed reviews when it comes to it.
    I like it a lot. It may have been frustrating to read issue by issue when it was happening (like all x-books seem to be for almost everyone given the vast history/ries of everything) but reading across it with all the movement and stakes and Cyclops having to handle all the decisions that keep coming is pretty intense. A lot of C's actions later are not so hard to understand with that story as a backdrop. & then it sets up Remender's x-force run, which is pretty great itself for at least the first 18 issues or so.

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    A truly excellent crossover with some real payoff to years worth of subplots. Some great writing from Fraction (IMHO his best on Uncanny), Carey, Kyle & Yost (always great but really particularly good here) and the very underrated Zeb Wells on New Mutants. Beautiful art all around and perfect ending.

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    Amazing read. The story felt really cinematic with some amazing art. It was cohesive and consistent; although some characterization and tone was slightly off due to some writers, but not too major. Every character had a pivotal role and it was the last time the New Mutants and the kids actually played an important part to the overall story.

    I went through every emotion reading this and I don't think an X-Men crossover has held up to it since.

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    ****, it's sad to realize that we've been 9 years without a good mutant event.

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    It was the last good X-men crossover.

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    A really strong crossover and a good climax to the Messiah storyline. Not a huge fan of Hope, but I did enjoy the series and the way it used the titles and characters in fun ways. I did a little video review here that I wanted to share.

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    The only point that bothers me about Second Coming is that everything before Kurt's death just happens because the writers didn't wanna Hope and Cable reunited with the X-men. And they don't have a good reason for that.

    Oh, and Dani fighting Hope is pretty stupid.

    I enjoy the rest of the event. And the art is very consistent (no Humberto Ramos here thank god).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant X View Post
    The only point that bothers me about Second Coming is that everything before Kurt's death just happens because the writers didn't wanna Hope and Cable reunited with the X-men. And they don't have a good reason for that.

    Oh, and Dani fighting Hope is pretty stupid.

    I enjoy the rest of the event. And the art is very consistent (no Humberto Ramos here thank god).
    Very true about your first point. I will say that I enjoyed the Dani/Hope fight. It felt real and while, yes, over the top it did ring true to both of them. I especially like the scene between Dani, Logan when they talk about Cypher's weakness being bullets. So harsh and that interaction was brilliantly heartbreaking.

    I do like Ramos, but it's very jarring compared to the other art in CompleX.
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    It was a mediocre and tedious punch up, with annoying chosen one narrative; but sadly Messiah Complex to Second Coming are still the best events I've ever read.
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    the crossover was awesome but the ending was a bit unsatisfactory bc I was hoping the questions to Hope would be addressed and we'd get a complete reversal of MDay

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    I am in the middle of re-reading the whole X-run and recently finished this event. I will say that I feel it's very under-rated and felt a bit like a return to the pressing desperation of the 80's. I know some folks hate the "San Francisco" era but I found it to be a bit of a breath of fresh air and at least they were trying something new and different. I might not have loved the Fear Itself or Necrosha side stories that happened around the same time, but I felt this trio of events made up for what could have been a disaster period for the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandafarmer View Post
    I am in the middle of re-reading the whole X-run and recently finished this event. I will say that I feel it's very under-rated and felt a bit like a return to the pressing desperation of the 80's. I know some folks hate the "San Francisco" era but I found it to be a bit of a breath of fresh air and at least they were trying something new and different. I might not have loved the Fear Itself or Necrosha side stories that happened around the same time, but I felt this trio of events made up for what could have been a disaster period for the books.
    At first I didn't like the move to San Fran. But then it actually just worked and helped that they were on the West Coast for a bit. Unfortunately they just kind of made a mess out there and just left it abandoned. That is a shame. I enjoyed for the most part the whole of it.
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    I personally love this event. I’ve always thought it was “Act 2” of mass X-Events that would end with mutants being back (it was in a way, but AvX ruined the X-Men).
    Very cinematic and the whole “fight or die” aspect was superb. You genuinely felt on edge not knowing who could make it out.

    In my head there was a similar event that follow, involving Hope and the Phoenix. At the end she would probably die, serving Her purpose and bringing mutants back. Unfortunately, Avengers vs X-Men was that event and it just fell flat.

    Also for me, this was Cyclops at his most interesting. A truly captivating leader.

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    Loved it. The stakes, the revelations, and all the sacrifices made to make mutants last just a little longer.
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