Captain Marvels Alcoholism

[dreyga2000]

Fun Fact: Tony Stark is Carols AA sponnsor

[mikeb]

Here is what happened to Carol during Operation Galatic Storm:

[Phoenixx9]

Here is what happened to Carol during Operation Galatic Storm:

Wow, that was intense!

I can see how Carol would burn out her Binary powers. However, I loved Carol as Binary!

[BitParallel]

If memory serves, Avengers volume 3, within the first 8 or so issues of the Busiek and Perez run is where it starts. I haven't read enough of Carol's current books to say if writers continue to note her struggles with alcohol. I have often wondered if alcohol addiction was itself symptomatic of a bigger addiction, especially since she started drinking at a time when her Binary powers were on the fritz. It wouldn't shock me if her true addiction -- the real rush that she gets and can't live without -- is linked to her powers.

Yoo ... they need to explore this.

Fun Fact: Tony Stark is Carols AA sponnsor

Why would a science boi even consider AA? .. The Sinclair Method .. thoughhh. That’s what’s up.

[gurkle]

Actually, originally Ms. Marvel didn't have energy projection powers. She was basically a lightweight Wonder Woman with ESP. The energy powers came from her Binary persona. But she was nowhere near Binary level when she donned the Ms. M. costume again.

Ah, thanks.

I do remember that issue 41 of Avengers v3 explained she could boost her power levels by absorbing enough energy (and the Caption Box Narrator said she had maybe a little residue of her old ESP left).

[mogwen]

I have great memories of the Busiek/perez Avengers run as the one who brought Carol Danvers back.
Carol's history had already been a rough ride and she was at the time a damaged character, she suffered from a lot of trauma. I will try to explain what led to her alcoholism.

She had been mind-controlled and raped by Marcus, Immortus's son so that he could impregnate himself in her and find a way to escape limbo (Gross!).
She found herself on earth a few days later, pregnant with no memories and the Avengers far from finding that curious and maybe dangerous, found it wonderful, you could even think of janet thinking about the names to give the baby. They just let her down. When she gave birth to baby marcus it created a temporal paradox and she left with marcus, still mind controlled with the Avengers wishing them good luck!

They go back to Limbo where Marcus rapidly ages and dies, she comes back to earth, now no longer mind controlled, angry against the Avengers for letting her down and what happens? She gets her powers and memories stolen by Rogue! This will lead to a confrontation with the Avengers team where she will tell them how they let her down, her friends.

Depowered, losing touch with most of who she was, she stays with the X-Men for a moment, gets kidnapped and experimented on by Broods which awakens Binary. She helps the X-Men for a moment, but when they accept Rogue in their ranks she feels betrayed once again and leaves for the stars with the Starjammers for a few years, she almost disappear completely from comic books.

During Operation Galactic Storm she saves the sun but pays the price for it;
And when she begins her stint on Busiek and Perez's Avengers run, she discovers her powers are now in flux. And she didn't want to risk her Avengers membership, she had already lost so much.

Traumas+pressure=alcoholism for Carol.
I'll advise you to read her beautiful story arc in Avengers to see how this beautiful story of fall and rise of an heroine resolves.

[ed2962]

I think it's fine to just go with the idea that her Binary levels just sorta burned out to where she can still access them, but just not on a constant basis. Everything doesn't need a major story to explain it.

At one point in the 70's Capt America had super strength until he didn't. The explanation was...it simply wore off.

[Ichijinijisanji]

Jean grey as phoenix severed carol's link to the white hole because after operation galactic storm, some other psychics were trying to manipulate her making her destabilize the white hole she created to save earth's sun.

This led to her powers eventually fading away.

happens in x-men unlimited 13

[Anthony W]

No, she wasn't powerless, she was back to her old powers as Ms. Marvel, super strong, flight, energy projection, instant costume changes, etc.

As Beast says, she just went from "phenomenally" to "incredibly" powerful.

I don't recall much explanation of why those powers faded; the Brood's experiments just wore off I guess. Of course she keeps sort of going Binary again anyway.

Hey everyone, check it out. It's The Beast, back when he was written well! No need to focus on Carol's struggle with the bottle. I'm sure that the MCU version of the character will not touch this with a ten foot pole because she is positioned to be their Wonder Woman and role model for kids. Here is another fun fact that you may not know. During this period in the characters history Carol was being set up to be a science fiction author.

[dreyga2000]

Also in this issue of Iron Man. Carol and Tony run into each other at an AA meeting...

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[leokearon]

As far as I remember, her Binary powers fated due to the star that gave her, her Binary powers was fading, or something like that.

[JKtheMac]

Why would a science boi even consider AA? .. The Sinclair Method .. thoughhh. That’s what’s up.

This is something I never understood. I know in reality the writers are probably not aware how unreliable and non evidence based AA is, but a sceptical scientist in a religion based abstention process seems infeasible even if there was sound evidence to suggest it works.

[BitParallel]

I have great memories of the Busiek/perez Avengers run as the one who brought Carol Danvers back.
Carol's history had already been a rough ride and she was at the time a damaged character, she suffered from a lot of trauma. I will try to explain what led to her alcoholism.

She had been mind-controlled and raped by Marcus, Immortus's son so that he could impregnate himself in her and find a way to escape limbo (Gross!).
She found herself on earth a few days later, pregnant with no memories and the Avengers far from finding that curious and maybe dangerous, found it wonderful, you could even think of janet thinking about the names to give the baby. They just let her down. When she gave birth to baby marcus it created a temporal paradox and she left with marcus, still mind controlled with the Avengers wishing them good luck!

They go back to Limbo where Marcus rapidly ages and dies, she comes back to earth, now no longer mind controlled, angry against the Avengers for letting her down and what happens? She gets her powers and memories stolen by Rogue! This will lead to a confrontation with the Avengers team where she will tell them how they let her down, her friends.

Depowered, losing touch with most of who she was, she stays with the X-Men for a moment, gets kidnapped and experimented on by Broods which awakens Binary. She helps the X-Men for a moment, but when they accept Rogue in their ranks she feels betrayed once again and leaves for the stars with the Starjammers for a few years, she almost disappear completely from comic books.

During Operation Galactic Storm she saves the sun but pays the price for it;
And when she begins her stint on Busiek and Perez's Avengers run, she discovers her powers are now in flux. And she didn't want to risk her Avengers membership, she had already lost so much.

Traumas+pressure=alcoholism for Carol.
I'll advise you to read her beautiful story arc in Avengers to see how this beautiful story of fall and rise of an heroine resolves.

wow this is detailed and I like it. Thank you!

This is something I never understood. I know in reality the writers are probably not aware how unreliable and non evidence based AA is, but a sceptical scientist in a religion based abstention process seems infeasible even if there was sound evidence to suggest it works.

I know,right?

I wouldn’t have thought Tony would go to AA. Thing is; from what I know, relapsing seems to be common among AA goers whereas TSM seems more scientific based with stable sobriety. Our Science Boy should reconsider.

[BitParallel]

Also in this issue of Iron Man. Carol and Tony run into each other at an AA meeting...

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Ohhh they met during their beef? Wasn’t Tony also struggling to stay sober during CW1 .. I feel sorry for him. Tough life

[Mike_Murdock]

Actually, originally Ms. Marvel didn't have energy projection powers. She was basically a lightweight Wonder Woman with ESP. The energy powers came from her Binary persona. But she was nowhere near Binary level when she donned the Ms. M. costume again.

Just to add to that, the added powers were due to Brood experimentation.