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    Quote Originally Posted by legion_quest View Post
    I've always personally felt Marvel missed a trick not doing a sideline imprint of MCU comics, using the MCU characters and their MCU portrayals and pumping those out in Newsstand locations and toy stores etc. Use the MCU as a link back to the comics, without losing what makes the comics their own thing.
    I remember reading some Batman history, an interview with Neal Adams I think. It was discussing the impact the Adam West Batman show had on the comics. When the West Batman came on air, the comics weren't unfaithful to the show, since it was still silver age and silly season. But the Batman show largely brought in new readers only during the first few episodes and so on, and near the end readership was dropping and then the show canceled and as a result of that withdrawal, readership of Batman also fell. So it didn't exactly bring new readers as much as people think. And eventually the comics decided to go its own way with Neal Adams taking Batman in a darker direction and sales picked up in the '70s during the Bronze Age and so on.

    So it's always been a mug's game as to whether the movies bring in new comics readers or not. Making MCU comics would be a problem because speaking as a consumer of movie and other tie-ins, if there is deviation from canon and so on, people are not going to care. It has be a perfect canon and in most cases it can't be because the movies will do what it has to do. Then there's also the question of quality. The Guardians of the Galaxy movies are astonishingly good and entertaining. Any potential reader of the comic would have a right to expect that comics writers match the inventiveness and imagination of James Gunn and his crew.

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    We all come to this stuff in different ways. I came to the movies first, so for me, Chris Pratt's take on the character is the real deal and the comic one is an odd imposter, a bit like having to read/watch stuff with OG Nick Fury in a post-Samuel L. Jackson Fury world.
    I feel the same way about the John Stewart Green Lantern. I definitely remember the Ryan Reynolds' GL movie. I grew up with the Justice League cartoons and for me John Stewart is Green Lantern, and I was let down as hell when they announced going with boring Hal Jordan for the movie, and to this day, I am unable to forgive Geoff Johns and DC for not reading the room and making Stewart "the GL" in the core comics and franchise. They should have made the cartoon Justice League into the actual comics Justice League and also the one in the Snyder movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    I remember reading some Batman history, an interview with Neal Adams I think. It was discussing the impact the Adam West Batman show had on the comics. When the West Batman came on air, the comics weren't unfaithful to the show, since it was still silver age and silly season. But the Batman show largely brought in new readers only during the first few episodes and so on, and near the end readership was dropping and then the show canceled and as a result of that withdrawal, readership of Batman also fell. So it didn't exactly bring new readers as much as people think. And eventually the comics decided to go its own way with Neal Adams taking Batman in a darker direction and sales picked up in the '70s during the Bronze Age and so on.

    So it's always been a mug's game as to whether the movies bring in new comics readers or not. Making MCU comics would be a problem because speaking as a consumer of movie and other tie-ins, if there is deviation from canon and so on, people are not going to care. It has be a perfect canon and in most cases it can't be because the movies will do what it has to do. Then there's also the question of quality. The Guardians of the Galaxy movies are astonishingly good and entertaining. Any potential reader of the comic would have a right to expect that comics writers match the inventiveness and imagination of James Gunn and his crew.
    Eh, you wouldn't necessarily do them month on month, maybe do larger digest size things with a story set in the MCU, then do something that explains the difference between MCU stuff and comics stuff - have an on page multiverse description explaining how different universes mean different characters - that way you introduce people who are fans of the MCU to the comics stuff, without having to alter the comics totally to mirror what the movies are doing - after all, the comics aren't canon to the MCU, so what does it matter if they are different as long as you can hook that new reader and keep them, without alienating your existing base?

    In regards canonical stuff, you can get round that in the same way - you can use the same character without having it be part of the MCU - they do it enough with tie in novels and other merchandise/cartoons.

    It's more about trying to appeal to numerous audiences; the attempt to grow your comic reading audience by trying to tempt in some film viewers, rather than trying to hammer your product in to a shape that appeals to everyone....because then you risk appealing to no one.

    It's not like Marvel haven't put out MCU comics anyway - they just put out a huge omnibus containing all of them in one place - it's just more about pushing those comics on to new readers, and helping them to be the bridge between MCU and the standard comic universe, rather than trying to use standard universe ones to do the same job (given how hard it must be for a new reader to jump in on some franchises and stick with it, even with MCU synergy).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    I feel the same way about the John Stewart Green Lantern. I definitely remember the Ryan Reynolds' GL movie. I grew up with the Justice League cartoons and for me John Stewart is Green Lantern, and I was let down as hell when they announced going with boring Hal Jordan for the movie, and to this day, I am unable to forgive Geoff Johns and DC for not reading the room and making Stewart "the GL" in the core comics and franchise. They should have made the cartoon Justice League into the actual comics Justice League and also the one in the Snyder movie.
    Personally, as someone who also grew up with the DCAU and Justice League, I appreciated being able to get into the comics with how different they were and getting to read stories with the other GL's other and seeing the comics as their own distinct thing from the DCAU.

    John Stewart is what got me into the GL's as a concept but Hal Jordan was what got me into the Green Lantern comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Personally, as someone who also grew up with the DCAU and Justice League, I appreciated being able to get into the comics with how different they were and getting to read stories with the other GL's other and seeing the comics as their own distinct thing from the DCAU.

    John Stewart is what got me into the GL's as a concept but Hal Jordan was what got me into the Green Lantern comics.
    I appreciate that. It's just that for me it seemed unfair. And I guess Geoff Johns proved my point about adaptations not bringing in new readers. He went his own way, and his GL comics were successful, at least in comics though not in the movies.

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