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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    I think there is a lot to say for making the Republicans take that step to protect Trump. Conceding defeat ahead of time just because Republicans is a bad way to conduct politics, IMO. Make them do it.
    Thing is Republicans did something similar with the ACA trying to repeal it (with what, something like 8 separate attempts) knowing that Obama would never sign it. All those attempts after the first one just made them look foolish and a waste of money (wasn't the cost figured around $50M?).

    If the impeachment vote passes through and fails in the Senate Trump will take it as a win and start doing victory laps and him and Fox news crowing as loud as he can how this proves how he was innocent all along. Just look at what he did with this report. People have gotten lazy, they want easy answers/solutions. Not do anything like in depth research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogwen View Post
    Hi everybody, I'm french and I'm following all that is happening in the U.S. since Donald Trump's election with curiosity and disgust. But I have an impression that things are right now accelerating, that we are all coming to the moment where all things come to a point.
    Is that your sentiment too?
    Sadly, no. I guess we are heading closer to the 2020 election, but that would be the only acceleration I see; as well as the only likely possibility of getting rid of Trump. As far away as that actually is, I would be amazed if any other process could get him out of office quicker.

    The pessimist in me thinks we won't even get rid of him in just one term. Expecting all kinds of chicanery and shenanigans leading into and around that election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toreador View Post
    Thing is Republicans did something similar with the ACA trying to repeal it (with what, something like 8 separate attempts) knowing that Obama would never sign it. All those attempts after the first one just made them look foolish and a waste of money (wasn't the cost figured around $50M?).

    If the impeachment vote passes through and fails in the Senate Trump will take it as a win and start doing victory laps and him and Fox news crowing as loud as he can how this proves how he was innocent all along. Just look at what he did with this report. People have gotten lazy, they want easy answers/solutions. Not do anything like in depth research.
    And if the House doesn't impeach him then obviously he's done nothing wrong and can take a victory lap about his exoneration and any investigations are the Dems just being 'angry'. You know, the stuff he's /already doing/. Again, we need to stop including the Repuyblicans being Republicans in our calculus, because they are always going to do the worst thing they can do, and instead need to decide what the right thing to do is and just do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Allen View Post
    Sadly, no. I guess we are heading closer to the 2020 election, but that would be the only acceleration I see; as well as the only likely possibility of getting rid of Trump. As far away as that actually is, I would be amazed if any other process could get him out of office quicker.

    The pessimist in me thinks we won't even get rid of him in just one term. Expecting all kinds of chicanery and shenanigans leading into and around that election.
    Not to mention Trumpanzees circling the wagons to support their god emperor whom they see as THE most persecuted man on the planet since Jesus. While no one has come right out and said that, I'm sure that distinction is coming, probably from the lips of some sleazy televangelist like Franklin Graham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    I think this is nonsense. Our actions can't be rooted in fear of creating McVeighs. That is, again, conceding too much power to the far right.
    Trying ti impeach him will be conceding the entire 2020 election to Trump. I guess you're okay with four more years of Trump. I am not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieHavoc View Post
    Trying ti impeach him will be conceding the entire 2020 election to Trump. I guess you're okay with four more years of Trump. I am not.
    I disagree strongly, obviously, and I am certainly not for four more years of Trump. I just refuse to let the Republican obstruction decide what our strategy is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    I disagree strongly, obviously, and I am certainly not for four more years of Trump. I just refuse to let the Republican obstruction decide what our strategy is.
    Well, good thing it's not up to you and me, I guess.

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