Avengers #18 Review and Spoilers War of the Realms Tie-In

[Michael Watkins]

All that matters is if Aaron's stealing Speed Demon from Spencer.

Spencer hasn't used him in this run, yet. so he'd be the one stealing.

[Ravin' Ray]

So Aaron is introducing the whole team via the "Trinity".

[Frontier]

So Aaron is introducing the whole team via the "Trinity".

I actually wonder if we can look at how he's writing the Squadron to get a sense of how he views DC's Trinity ?

[Alphaxman]

I actually wonder if we can look at how he's writing the Squadron to get a sense of how he views DC's Trinity ?

If that's the case, his "Wonder Woman" would be too aggressive for my liking. I always see Diana using violence as a last resort and wouldn't take pleasure in doing so. His "Superman" is very Clark-like and it's too early to see how close of a "Bat-god" Nighthawk will be. Just the fact that the government as low as his Secret Service agents know his identity is super un-Bruce like.

[pageturner]

No to repeat but another version! i do hope the theory that this is a folded version from the multiverse but I have doubts.

MArvel has more squads than taylor swift.

[mace11]

At different points of time Earth-616 was visited by 5 Hyperions: Grandmaster's one (from Squadron Sinister), Earth-712 one, Hickman's, King Hyperion and Microverse one. This one is the sixth (if he is a new one).

There were two hyperions from the 616 Microverse.
The clone and another 616 hyperion by the way from the Microverse.

Here is the other one.
I wonder if it's him or not.

Zhib-Ran (Earth-616)

First Appearance -New Thunderbolts #16- (February, 2006)
Last Appearance-Thunderbolts #106-(November, 2006)

Zhib-Ran was an inhabitant of a world called Yttrium in the Microverse which was apparently accidentally destroyed by human atomic testing. He was the template for the false Zhib-Ran who became the original Hyperion of the Squadron Sinister, and eventually replaced his doppelganger when the Squadron was reformed by Doctor Spectrum and clashed with the Thunderbolts.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Zhib-Ran_(Earth-616)

[Kurolegacy]

If that's the case, his "Wonder Woman" would be too aggressive for my liking. I always see Diana using violence as a last resort and wouldn't take pleasure in doing so. His "Superman" is very Clark-like and it's too early to see how close of a "Bat-god" Nighthawk will be. Just the fact that the government as low as his Secret Service agents know his identity is super un-Bruce like.

Those weren’t actually secret service agents, they were LMDs, which is actually a pretty clever way of keeping his identity secret.

[kilderkin]

http://www.cbr.com/exclusive-avengers-18-preview/

spoilers:

Well it looks like Jason Aaron may have created a brand new Hyperion, Nighthawk and Power Princess, even through there are already the Hickman's Hyperion, a black Nighthawk (Joaquin Pennyworth) and two Zarda[s] (Power Princess from Earth-712 and Warrior Woman from Battleworld) roaming around.Here's why I think they may be brand new versions: From the narrator, this Hyperion is a teacher instead of a truck driver and apparently he is just learning how to use his power. Nighthawk has the name Kyle Raymond and is definitely not the Kyle Raymond from the Max series who died in that Occupy Avengers title. And by the way its written, this Zarda has a power limitation in the form of a necklace she use to hinder her strength. Plus, just from small sample, she's takes pleasure in fighting that the Zarda from 712 didn't process. She's more like the misconceptions some DC writers handle Wonder Woman.

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I'll wait to see how all this plays out before making a decision if I like it or not. I hated the Celestials story and his pre-history Avenger mess, but I was a little entertain with his Vampire story.

Copy that, I really didn't like the celestials god's vomit story, the history stuff is just an irritating segue, the vampire story I really enjoyed.

I liked my squadron, so this might be great, but how many of these guys can we have?

[Anthony W]

Hyperion: Aaron seems to be going against the Marvel rule that states all Marvel takes on Superman must be nuts. The writing combined with the art is as close as I have ever seen Marvel (and sadly DC) get to Superman in a long time. I would say Aaron would be a good Superman writer, but something tells me that if he gets on the actual Superman book Clark will become a shadow of himself and be replaced by someone who is instantly better than him at everything.

Nighthawk: I have no problems with this. His job keeps him close to the center of power in the United States but still allows him to fly under the radar.

Zarda:This is interesting. This is the way writers who don't really get Wonder Woman write Wonder Woman, as a Xena Warrior Princess clone. But since Zarda isn't Wonder Woman this take Is valid.

Speed Demon: Will he be the exception to the rule that all Marvel speedsters are terrible? I doubt it.

I'm also fascinated that so many of you enjoyed the vampire story. I liked the fact that Blade was used and his characterization felt spot on. The story dragged on too long. I have had some major issues with some of the decisions Aaron has made on the title but this was the first time I was bored and just wanted the story to be over.

[Snoop Dogg]

That speedster isn't Speed Demon, so Spencer is sure to have James bitch about it in ASM! Win!

I don't know whether to be infuriated or impressed that Coulson is the best handled plot thread left over from Secret Empire.

Hyperion: Aaron seems to be going against the Marvel rule that states all Marvel takes on Superman must be nuts.

Bruh

[XPac]

That speedster isn't Speed Demon, so Spencer is sure to have James bitch about it in ASM! Win!

I don't know whether to be infuriated or impressed that Coulson is the best handled plot thread left over from Secret Empire.



Bruh

This New Coulson definately has my attention. HIm and his new dinner companion.

It's interesting just how much new stuff Aaron keeps throwing into the mix. We're getting another big bad thrown into the mix. The end game of all of this should be interesting.

[nightw1ng]

I appreciated the tongue-in-cheek joke of calling the Washington D.C. based Squadron Supreme of America "D.C.'s greatest heroes".

[CentralPower]

Well it looks like Jason Aaron may have created a brand new Hyperion, Nighthawk and Power Princess, even through there are already the Hickman's Hyperion, a black Nighthawk (Joaquin Pennyworth) and two Zarda[s] (Power Princess from Earth-712 and Warrior Woman from Battleworld) roaming around.....

You are describing the Hickman/Robinson team (aside from the Nighthawk, which was the character from "Supreme Power".)

Geez... how many of these guys do we want litering the MU? Hyperion might as well start a corps.

Still, that aside they all do seem kinda interesting. Part of me wishes we got this version right after Secret Wars. You can justify their differences by saying they were somehow folded into this universe like Miles rather than just being stranded here.

The Squadron has a hard enough time being more than a cargo-cult Justice League, without being on the same world as the Avengers.

Honestly, as much as I love the Squadron, I have to wonder how much value they really add to the comics market over-all.

In 1985, the Gruenwald series made sense because DC had yet to publish "Watchmen", and stuff like "Red Son" was still decades away. But, when DC comfortable publishing comics like "Superman: Red Son" or "Batman: Secret Identity", is there even a need for a "Squadron Supreme" to function as "the best Justice League series that DC never published"?

I actually wonder if we can look at how he's writing the Squadron to get a sense of how he views DC's Trinity ?

The lower uses for the Squadron are usually a variation of "evil or feeble-minded heroes from the derp dimension" as a way for Marvel to show how "totuly stupit teh justis leeg iz". The new iteration of the team might be following in that cliche tradition.

Hyperion: Aaron seems to be going against the Marvel rule that states all Marvel takes on Superman must be nuts.

Too early to tell. We are not even sure if this is a wholly new team or not.

[XPac]

Hyperion: Aaron seems to be going against the Marvel rule that states all Marvel takes on Superman must be nuts. The writing combined with the art is as close as I have ever seen Marvel (and sadly DC) get to Superman in a long time. I would say Aaron would be a good Superman writer, but something tells me that if he gets on the actual Superman book Clark will become a shadow of himself and be replaced by someone who is instantly better than him at everything.

Nighthawk: I have no problems with this. His job keeps him close to the center of power in the United States but still allows him to fly under the radar.

Zarda:This is interesting. This is the way writers who don't really get Wonder Woman write Wonder Woman, as a Xena Warrior Princess clone. But since Zarda isn't Wonder Woman this take Is valid.

Speed Demon: Will he be the exception to the rule that all Marvel speedsters are terrible? I doubt it.

I'm also fascinated that so many of you enjoyed the vampire story. I liked the fact that Blade was used and his characterization felt spot on. The story dragged on too long. I have had some major issues with some of the decisions Aaron has made on the title but this was the first time I was bored and just wanted the story to be over.

Eh... way to early to tell how this Hyperion is going to turn out in the end. Given what we're seeing, this one may well end up going nuts faster than some of the previous ones.

[protege]

This New Coulson definately has my attention. HIm and his new dinner companion.

It's interesting just how much new stuff Aaron keeps throwing into the mix. We're getting another big bad thrown into the mix. The end game of all of this should be interesting.

I just wonder how they’re going to bring coulson back from this one, or if i’m even going to care anymore.