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    Quote Originally Posted by Matternativ View Post
    The more you know!
    Of course, the Hawkeye series in AVENGERS SPOTLIGHT was a bit of a mixed bag in terms of quality, but there were some enjoyable stories in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermie View Post
    Of course, the Hawkeye series in AVENGERS SPOTLIGHT was a bit of a mixed bag in terms of quality, but there were some enjoyable stories in there.
    That sounds like the description of Most every silver age book tbh
    "̶l̶̶e̶̶t̶'̶s̶̶ ̶̶h̶̶a̶̶v̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶s̶̶o̶̶m̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶f̶̶u̶̶n̶̶,̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶h̶̶i̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶b̶̶e̶̶a̶̶t̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶s̶̶i̶̶c̶̶k̶̶.̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶ ̶̶w̶̶a̶̶n̶̶n̶̶a̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶a̶̶k̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶a̶̶ ̶̶r̶̶i̶̶d̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶o̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶y̶̶o̶̶u̶̶r̶̶ ̶̶d̶̶i̶̶s̶̶c̶̶o̶̶s̶̶t̶̶i̶̶c̶̶k̶̶"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matternativ View Post
    What I would not recommend to read and what's the worst example of the issue I described above was the direct follow up to Fraction:
    All New Hawkeye by Jeff Lemire.
    Ah, that's disappointing. Thanks for the warning!

    Is Kate Bishops solo series any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manymade1 View Post
    Ah, that's disappointing. Thanks for the warning!

    Is Kate Bishops solo series any good?
    It is indeed and so is the follow up "West Coast Avengers".
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    "Let's have some fun, this riff is sick. I wanna mosh around in the Circle Pit!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matternativ View Post
    That sounds like the description of Most every silver age book tbh
    lol. You're not wrong, although SOLO AVENGERS/AVENGERS SPOTLIGHT wouldn't qualify as Silver Age - that series ran from the late 80s to the very early 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermie View Post
    lol. You're not wrong, although SOLO AVENGERS/AVENGERS SPOTLIGHT wouldn't qualify as Silver Age - that series ran from the late 80s to the very early 90s.
    I'm bad with my "ages" when it comes the comics. xD
    "̶l̶̶e̶̶t̶'̶s̶̶ ̶̶h̶̶a̶̶v̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶s̶̶o̶̶m̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶f̶̶u̶̶n̶̶,̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶h̶̶i̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶b̶̶e̶̶a̶̶t̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶s̶̶i̶̶c̶̶k̶̶.̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶ ̶̶w̶̶a̶̶n̶̶n̶̶a̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶a̶̶k̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶a̶̶ ̶̶r̶̶i̶̶d̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶o̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶y̶̶o̶̶u̶̶r̶̶ ̶̶d̶̶i̶̶s̶̶c̶̶o̶̶s̶̶t̶̶i̶̶c̶̶k̶̶"
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    Silver is from when DC's Showcase #4 (debut of Barry Allen Flash) was published, through to the early 70s (Gwen Stacy's death). Bronze is from then until the mid 1980s (Crisis on Infinite Earths and Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars). After that it gets nebulous, since each age is referred to as the modern age in it's own time. The major shifts after that I'd say are 2000 (launch of Ultimate Universe, Image and other indies become popular, comics gradually ditch the Code), and 2011/2 (New 52 and Marvel NOW, and the rise of digital).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Silver is from when DC's Showcase #4 (debut of Barry Allen Flash) was published, through to the early 70s (Gwen Stacy's death). Bronze is from then until the mid 1980s (Crisis on Infinite Earths and Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars). After that it gets nebulous, since each age is referred to as the modern age in it's own time. The major shifts after that I'd say are 2000 (launch of Ultimate Universe, Image and other indies become popular, comics gradually ditch the Code), and 2011/2 (New 52 and Marvel NOW, and the rise of digital).
    Gotcha. I assume we just don't talk about the 90ies edge then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matternativ View Post
    Gotcha. I assume we just don't talk about the 90ies edge then
    The second half of the 80's up to the last years of the 90's is often called Dark Age as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresh View Post
    The second half of the 80's up to the last years of the 90's is often called Dark Age as far as I know.
    Ah gotcha!

    On another note: The Black Widow Trailer hit and there's a short scene of a masked Archer which got me all excited until I realized it's probably just taskmaster.
    "̶l̶̶e̶̶t̶'̶s̶̶ ̶̶h̶̶a̶̶v̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶s̶̶o̶̶m̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶f̶̶u̶̶n̶̶,̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶h̶̶i̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶b̶̶e̶̶a̶̶t̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶s̶̶i̶̶c̶̶k̶̶.̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶ ̶̶w̶̶a̶̶n̶̶n̶̶a̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶a̶̶k̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶a̶̶ ̶̶r̶̶i̶̶d̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶o̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶y̶̶o̶̶u̶̶r̶̶ ̶̶d̶̶i̶̶s̶̶c̶̶o̶̶s̶̶t̶̶i̶̶c̶̶k̶̶"
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    Tales of Suspense #60 Dec 1964
    Second appearance of Hawkeye in "Suspected of Murder!"
    After his fight against the Black Knight, Tony Stark wakes up from a nightmare and remembers that he
    can't take his armor off, because he requires the extra power from its belt pods to keep his heart beating.
    Meanwhile, his employees Pepper Potts and Happy Hogan desperately search for their boss all
    over the city to no avail, so they return to Stark Industries, in case Iron Man has news of Stark.

    When they question Iron Man, Tony realizes he can't tell them he
    is on vacation, because they would search for him in his haunts.
    He claims that Tony is on a secret business matter that even he doesn't know of.
    Happy is suspicious and confronts Iron Man, threatening the Avenger.

    Back in his office, Stark writes a note to calm their fears, and signs it.
    While Iron Man is removing cash from the safe, Happy and Pepper enter the office, accompanied by the police.
    Pointing out that the safe has not been forced open, Iron Man turns over the note.
    The police examine the note and find the handwriting oddly shaky;
    they also notice an absence of fingerprints both because Stark was wearing his armored gloves when writing it.
    As Iron Man, Tony claims that he's tired of the questioning and flees through the window. The officers try to shoot him down,
    but the inspector reminds them that they still have no clear proof that Iron Man did anything wrong.
    Iron Man calls the Avengers to request absence from a meeting and Thor grants
    him his request, but not before asking his teammate if he has done anything.

    Meanwhile, in her luxurious mansion, the Black Widow takes advantage of Stark's disappearance
    and Iron Man's escape from Stark Industries to send Hawkeye to steal the plans for Stark's newest weapon.
    The archer reluctantly agrees and breaks into the factory.

    When he reaches the door to Stark's office, he's spotted by a police officer.
    Hawkeye escapes into the room and takes Pepper hostage, forcing her to lead him to Stark's lab.
    Once in the lab, Hawkeye finds himself surrounded by machines he doesn't understand and no papers or plans at all.
    Pepper reveals that Stark keeps all of his secret formulas in his head.

    Hawkeye tries to force Pepper to use a communicator to call for a escape vehicle, but she refuses.
    The communicator was on nevertheless and Happy and the police overhear the discussion in Stark's lab.
    The Avengers, informed of the events unfolding at Stark Industries,
    call Iron Man and ask him if he wants them to take care of Hawkeye.
    Iron Man decides to go alone, because the presence of all of the Avengers might lead him to hurt Pepper.

    The Black Widow decides to go to Stark Industries to help her lover, but as soon as she leaves
    the house, she's captured by Sergi Amkov, the head of the iron curtain spy system in America.

    Back at Stark Industries, Iron Man easily dodges Hawkeye's arrows
    and creates distance between the villain and his hostage.
    Hawkeye breaks a pair of chains holding an expensive rocket, forcing Iron Man to grab it.
    He tries to trap the Golden Avenger with an arrow equipped with a steel cable,
    but Iron Man snares the cable before it can entwine him and pulls it, knocking down Hawkeye.
    The archer escapes to the rooftop by launching a blinding-flash arrow at Iron Man.

    On the roof, Hawkeye launches an arrow with a rope at a plane taking off from LaGuardia Airport,
    and uses it to carry him across the river. Unbeknownst to him, the plane holds Black Widow and her abductors.
    The police soon arrive at Stark's lab, but Pepper convinces them not to use their
    anti-armor guns on Iron Man, pointing out he hasn't been found guilty of any crime.

    As Iron Man leaves, Pepper claims that while the evidence points at him,
    she finds something about Iron Man that makes her want to trust him.

    Script by Stan Lee, pencils by Don Heck, inks by Dick Ayers

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    Hawkeye appeared in an underwhelming issue of Web of the Black Widow today.

    Chances are he'll appear in the next one as well. Yay...I guess
    "̶l̶̶e̶̶t̶'̶s̶̶ ̶̶h̶̶a̶̶v̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶s̶̶o̶̶m̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶f̶̶u̶̶n̶̶,̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶h̶̶i̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶b̶̶e̶̶a̶̶t̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶s̶̶ ̶̶s̶̶i̶̶c̶̶k̶̶.̶̶ ̶̶i̶̶ ̶̶w̶̶a̶̶n̶̶n̶̶a̶̶ ̶̶t̶̶a̶̶k̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶a̶̶ ̶̶r̶̶i̶̶d̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶o̶̶n̶̶ ̶̶y̶̶o̶̶u̶̶r̶̶ ̶̶d̶̶i̶̶s̶̶c̶̶o̶̶s̶̶t̶̶i̶̶c̶̶k̶̶"
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    Will this thread be closed down come 2020 or can we continue to use it since it didn't exactly go 100+ pages?
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    "Let's have some fun, this riff is sick. I wanna mosh around in the Circle Pit!"

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    West Coast Avengers #4 Dec 1984
    "Finale"
    The West Coast Avengers lick their wounds after failing to defeat Graviton last issue!


    However Hawkeye is planning a counterattack! The ace archer knows that
    a frontal assault is not a good idea! And subterfuge may be the best option!
    To that end Clint, Mockingbird and Tigra infiltrate Graviton's fledgling organization in disguise;
    while Shell-Head and Wonder Man stand by to apply the brute force! Will Hawkeye's daring plan work?

    It's an awesome battle vs. Graviton with all hands on deck for Earth's Mightiest Heroes!

    Cameo appearances by the Shroud and the Vision.
    NOTES: The West Coast Avengers' next adventure takes place in Avengers 250.
    The West Coast Avengers (1985) monthly series launches in October 1985.


    Script by Roger Stern. Art by Bob Hall (breakdowns), Brett Breeding (finishes) and Peter Berardi (finishes).

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