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    Quote Originally Posted by kmeyers View Post
    Why would they even have it in the movie at all then? There's a reason for every line in that 3 hour movie, and Marvel LOVES their Easter eggs.
    The point of the scene was showing Widow falling apart and trying to keep her family (avengers) together by any means. To the point she is obsessing about things that are relatively normal... like earthquakes

    It is estimated that there are 500,000 detectable earthquakes in the world each year. 100,000 of those can be felt, and 100 of them cause damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmeyers View Post
    That's why she was like yeah, we don't do anything, as in, we leave him alone unless he starts messing with the land. No need to start a huge war.
    Yea feel like your reading into something where theres nothing. The whole point was Nat cant solve every problem. And a underwater earthquake theres nothing that can be done. If thye had shown a monitor with the location being where Ironman 2 set up Atlantis then fine. But if not you have to add some fan fiction in your head to make that a Namor Easter egg. Future Namor appearance could definetly go back and say that was caused BY Atlantis but we ain't got enough info for that to be true right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90'sCartoonMan View Post
    Into the Spider-Verse (the first movie after Stan's death) had a great quote and dedication at the end. And then Captain Marvel had an all Stan Lee Marvel Studios logo. Maybe they could've saved that logo for Endgame, but I feel like after those two, there's not a lot more they could do in the third Marvel-related movie after Stan passed away (and it's not like they could've done more to the cameo without him around).
    Spiderverse was Sony, not Marvel, so I dn't count that one (but it was good).

    Putting the logo tribute from Captain Marvel into Endgame would have been inapproriate when you consider the opening scene. Starting with soemthing that jovial/celebratory would have worked against the mood they were trying to set. It just didn't fit to put as an opener, so I get it's omission. But leaving the only final tribute in what was effectively "optional viewing" (an origin movie wedged between a 2-part finale for a character who wasn't central to the story) is just poor decision making IMO. Everyone knew the turnout would be huge for EndGame ... there should have been no doubt where to place the tribute.

    Just a swing and a miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmeyers View Post
    Why would they even have it in the movie at all then? There's a reason for every line in that 3 hour movie, and Marvel LOVES their Easter eggs.
    To show that Widow is still unhinged and can't move past the event even 5 years later. She's nervous about every tremor, she's constantly following up on clint, she's become obessive over what terrible thing _could_ happen next. This was on the heels of Lang walking through town with garbage piled up and memorials to the "vanished". That entire arc was about showing how "Avenging" by killing Thanos wasn't enough. The damage was done and they couldn't get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandEleven View Post
    That entire arc was about showing how "Avenging" by killing Thanos wasn't enough.
    Yup, Stark even foreshadows this by calling out how the very name of the team contains implicit failure: if you're "avenging" someone, then by definition you failed to protect them. The team's very name is rooted in failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    Yes a Disney Plus series. But hes still called falcon in the title but I'm guessing the show is Bucky helping in transition into Cap
    This sounds spectacular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    Yup, Stark even foreshadows this by calling out how the very name of the team contains implicit failure: if you're "avenging" someone, then by definition you failed to protect them. The team's very name is rooted in failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    Yup, Stark even foreshadows this by calling out how the very name of the team contains implicit failure: if you're "avenging" someone, then by definition you failed to protect them. The team's very name is rooted in failure.
    Tony was forever being negative because he was depressed about losing Peter Parker, so Tony made this comment about the name Avengers, that was a stretch. The Avengers had been around forever. They were not a failure, because they always addressed the threat directly, not came in after the disaster to help with clean-up.

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    Someone on the Blu-ray forums posted this--

    My daughter's 6th grade Art teacher began giving out detentions for students purposefully revealing spoilers.

    https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...12222&page=926
    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    Tony was forever being negative because he was depressed about losing Peter Parker, so Tony made this comment about the name Avengers, that was a stretch. The Avengers had been around forever. They were not a failure, because they always addressed the threat directly, not came in after the disaster to help with clean-up.
    In the context of the movie it was absolutely said to help sell the proper mood for that first act and foreshadow the 2nd. A beaten, demoralized team, a dire throw back to Stark's first monologe to Loki turned on its head ("we may not be able to save the earth, but we can avenge it"). No, that line was pretty delibrate. You could argue they havn't been failures, but thats missing the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    Someone on the Blu-ray forums posted this--




    https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...12222&page=926
    Wow.
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    I've heard some complaints about Captain Marvel's "attitude" problem in the film. In the opening act. Personally, I don't see her being condescending in the film towards others. I just thought she was pretty confident in her abilities. However, I wonder if those same people that were turned off by her presence, were also turned off by Tony Stark in the first Avengers film. Definitely took him a while to work with everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShogun View Post
    I've heard some complaints about Captain Marvel's "attitude" problem in the film. In the opening act. Personally, I don't see her being condescending in the film towards others. I just thought she was pretty confident in her abilities. However, I wonder if those same people that were turned off by her presence, were also turned off by Tony Stark in the first Avengers film. Definitely took him a while to work with everyone else.
    I think the way they have Brie Larson playing Captain Marvel is problematic. She is some kind of snarky/aloof/smug and it just doesn't quite work. At least not for me. (My wife straight up dislikes the character)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    I think the way they have Brie Larson playing Captain Marvel is problematic. She is some kind of snarky/aloof/smug and it just doesn't quite work. At least not for me. (My wife straight up dislikes the character)
    I completely agree. Even when Tony was being difficult in the earlier films he was still charismatic and likable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    Someone on the Blu-ray forums posted this--




    https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...12222&page=926
    Wow.
    Oh, I told my classes if they spoil it they are getting lunch detention until the end of the year! Even the other teachers started talking about the film!! I had to go see it way earlier than planned so it didn’t get spoiled, but I am very glad I did
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