Avengers: Endgame Spoilers

[brettc1]

Just had a thought about the MCU Kang. Maybe they should keep him in a mask for multiple movies and then cast an older RDJ when they finally tell his story.

Nice.

One thing bothering me, now I have settled the time-winey stuff.

The Ancient One says the stones MUST exist in order to regulate their specific aspects of the universe. That’s correct?

If so, how can Thanos have destroyed them? And will we find out down the track they were only scattered again?

[JKtheMac]

Nice.

One thing bothering me, now I have settled the time-winey stuff.

The Ancient One says the stones MUST exist in order to regulate their specific aspects of the universe. That’s correct?

If so, how can Thanos have destroyed them? And will we find out down the track they were only scattered again?

I am pretty sure that is exactly what happened. Even when he said it I was thinking ‘You only think you did’. There is a subtle theme that destiny is now their own (after destiny being manipulated by Thanos for most of the MCU). I doubt we will see the new gems for quite a while if ever, but I suspect they still exist.

Yet again we see evidence that the comic writers knew what the basic plot was and have been telling stories loosely inspired by the upcoming movie. Especially the recent Infinity event. I suspect history will forget this, but it’s been happening over and over in the comics. Fans will rewrite history to claim the movies changed the comics after the fact, but it’s more subtle than that, with potential cross-pollination.

[Godlike13]

Hulk totally stole the show.

[JKtheMac]

Hulk totally stole the show.

He was a stand-out, but I would argue the main players were him, Ant-Man, Nebula, Thor, Tony and Steve. What really surprised me was how much they relied on Paul Rudd as the emotional set-up. I didn’t actually realise he was such a good actor.

P.S. This is the role of Karen Gillen’s career. A huge amount of the movie relied on her performances. Underneath make-up as well. She was stunning in this.

[JKtheMac]

Just had a thought about the MCU Kang. Maybe they should keep him in a mask for multiple movies and then cast an older RDJ when they finally tell his story.

And another thing. Perhaps ‘I love you three thousand’ is a clue that this will happen, and Kang will be from the year 3000. I know I am reaching here but it’s a seed if nothing else.

[JKtheMac]

THAT was a scene I was sure we were going to see. Was disappointed when it didn’t play out.

There is an entire epic movie that happens off-screen, in which Steve puts all the stones back. Potentially a double hander if things go wrong and he needs help from Agent Carter. It will probably live in our imagination as the movie that was never made.

[chamber-music]

-Don't know how I feel about the end with Cap.

I thought it was a nice ending for the character.

They could technically de-age Steve with Banners tech if they wanted to but I hope they don't.

[JKtheMac]

I thought it was a nice ending for the character.

They could technically de-age Steve with Banners tech if they wanted to but I hope they don't.

There is also that underlying and subtle idea that Steve is now potentially all over time. Past present and even future. It’s a recurring idea in comics that a heroic soldier is out there in time. Kind of a science fiction ‘King Arthur will return when Britain is in most need of him’ idea. Most recently this happened in Hickman’s Avengers, when Cap gets to travel to the deep past, via multiple stops, but it was most successfully done by Busiek with Silver Agent. Kind of a time travel solution to the idea of the eternal warrior. To be clear, I am not saying this is an essential part of the archetype but it is an underlying tendency that I have noticed.

[Somecrazyaussie]

There is also that underlying and subtle idea that Steve is now potentially all over time. Past present and even future. It’s a recurring idea in comics that a heroic soldier is out there in time. Kind of a science fiction ‘King Arthur will return when Britain is in most need of him’ idea. Most recently this happened in Hickman’s Avengers, when Cap gets to travel to the deep past, via multiple stops, but it was most successfully done by Busiek with Silver Agent. Kind of a time travel solution to the idea of the eternal warrior. To be clear, I am not saying this is an essential part of the archetype but it is an underlying tendency that I have noticed.

It might also be a clever way to bypass the multiple Caps that followed Steve in the comics. There they tried to make out each subsequent one was the original. With only the government knowing the truth. That's if they decided to do it. But, with Steve going into the past, does that mean they could technically go back and get him if needed down the line? They'd have to put him back though, right?

Also, what about the Tesseract? Namely the one Goose coughed up post Captain Marvel?

[JKtheMac]

Also, what about the Tesseract? Namely the one Goose coughed up post Captain Marvel?

What about it? The only new path for the Tesseract is whatever Loki does with it after the now changed events at the end of A1. We can assume he eventually steps back into his assigned path as a prisoner but he can do lots of things before that. Even potentially gather some of the other stones and manipulate time.

[Iron_Legion87]

For me the TV side is canon.

Agent Carter was always going to be acknowledged as it was a offspring of Marvel studios film division. Marvel Studios co-President Louis D'Esposito directed the one shot and one of the Russo brothers directed a episode of Agent Carter.

Some of the other Marvel shows are purely the creation of Marvel's television division and had little input from the film side of the company so are less likely to be acknowledged in the movies.

Honestly, since the film deals with time travel. This is the big conclusion to the past 11 years of films, it would have been cool to finally have the Netflix heroes show up in the final battle ( at least for a small bit). My big gripe is that Marvel basically lied to fans when they touted the tag line “ it’s all connected”.

[brettc1]

There is an entire epic movie that happens off-screen, in which Steve puts all the stones back. Potentially a double hander if things go wrong and he needs help from Agent Carter. It will probably live in our imagination as the movie that was never made.

The thing is there is nothing to stop them bringing back Evans for another Cap movie. Now they have established you can access different timelines, it’s like the Arrowverse. You can jump from one earth to another.

With the soul stone no longer on Vormir (presumably) it’s possible the Skull is also free to leave. Seeking revenge for being imprisoned would seem a likely goal for him.

Personally I am harping the next really big bad is Doom.

[Iron_Legion87]

I am seeing the movie again Saturday. But this movie brought me so much joy as both a marvel comic and film fan. It also gives a new appreciation for all the previous films. The final battle will go down as the most awesome comic book movie fight scene in history. It’s closely followed by the Wakanda battle in Infinity War and the Airport battle in Civil War.

[brettc1]

What about it? The only new path for the Tesseract is whatever Loki does with it after the now changed events at the end of A1. We can assume he eventually steps back into his assigned path as a prisoner but he can do lots of things before that. Even potentially gather some of the other stones and manipulate time.

No, he can do whatever, if the theories here are right, that timeline was seperate to the one Thor and Rocket jump to.

Of course, Thanos would be hunting him so it’s not certain how long he’d last. Maybe he will come to the MCU reality looking to escape, since there’s no Loki here to compete with.

Would have hilarious to have them visit a timeline where Banner looks like Eric Bana or Edward Norton

[Iron_Legion87]

That is interesting isn’t it. I suspect that they are leaving their options open. The main plan being she is still in the Soul Stone and can be rescued, but the backup being that they can use the alt-version if they need to. It could be, we have seen the last of her.

Yea it’s probably the plot for Guardians of the Galaxy 3.