Disappointed by DC??!!

[RickWJ324]

I've been a DC fanboy for as long as I can remember. With that said I am finding myself more and more disappointed with the DC books with each passing week to the point that I'm starting to drop books. Just a few dreadful points off the top of my head:
1)Ric Grayson. Enough already. Get the book back on track or put it out of its misery. Art and writing are terrible. DiDio may not like Dick Grayson but his fans sure do.
2)Bat titles have been on a downward spiral since the bat/cat wedding (that should've happened). And Thomas Wayne working with Bane to destroy his son?! F.U.
3)Superman titles. I was for Bendis coming onboard but Rogol Zaar is going nowhere, bringing back Jor-el is ridiculous, the Jon Kent character was destroyed, and now supes can change his hair/face/ethnicity on a whim?! Perhaps he should've been doing that all along instead of wearing glasses as a disguise. These titles are going down the toilet.
4)Heroes in Crisis - Really??!! This last issue and what was done to Wally is unforgivable. A BIG F.U. to Didio and the writers and staff behind that book.
5)Aquaman - story is a boring mess right now. Perhaps amnesiac Andy can hang out with amnesiac Ric and figure out how to star in a title that I can give a rats a$$ about.

DC...you disappoint me. DiDio needs to go and you should take a long look at your writing and editorial staff.

[Talon1load]

Agreed. I don’t buy any of the current stuff anymore. I stick to trades from anytime before the New 52 now.

[chachi]

My DC pull list is down to 3 titles, and it will be just 1 by July. I have dropped Batman (king sucks), dropped Bendis Superman, Sideways, and Damage have been cancelled, Silencer will be done in June. I will probably be dropping Action soon. This will leave me with just Red Hood, which I really do enjoy. See nothing in the solicits that interest me going forwards, as far as adding new titles.

[caj]

Agreed. I don’t buy any of the current stuff anymore. I stick to trades from anytime before the New 52 now.

Me as well. Nothing that has come out for DC Comics in the last 10 years has really peaked my interest.

[Jekyll]

No JSA, no Ray Palmer (with the exception of random appearances here and there), enough has been said about Wally that I don't have anything to add.
Since the new 52 I have had anywhere from 0 to 2 books at the highest, because of how my favorite characters have been treated (or ignored) under the current leadership. However, I will end on a positive note and say thank you to Geoff Johns for keeping Shazam alive and well. DC really is not interesting these days and continues a downward spiral to Dan Didio's dreaded "apathy" which he is creating.

[Restingvoice]

"now supes can change his hair/face/ethnicity on a whim?"

Wait, what? Details please

[king81992]

"now supes can change his hair/face/ethnicity on a whim?"

Wait, what? Details please

Superman is in disguise to take down Leviathan.

[RickWJ324]

"now supes can change his hair/face/ethnicity on a whim?"

Wait, what? Details please

Yeah, he has some "krypton tech" that allows him to turn into a middle eastern looking character. Whether Bendis created this or if it comes from some ridiculous silver age story, its pretty stupid. It wreaks of some silly silver age antics, or something Morrison would create.

And to those that commented about Bendis NOT bringing back Jor-el... I know that. It was a bad idea to start with, and Bendis has responsible for what's being done with the character and with Rogol and the Jon Kent b.s.

Don't get me wrong...I like Bendis a lot and have been a fan of most of his work. I was excited to hear that he was coming on board with Superman and I do like some things he's done. BUT the stuff with Jon, the stupid "open marriage" vibe he gave Lois and Clark, and many other aspects of his stories so far just seems wrong to me. For those that like it, great! Personally I don't.

[failo.legendkiller]

I love legacy characters and it seems DC is penalazing every one I love since N52 started.
Dick Grayson, Roy Harper, Wally West, Donna Troy, Garth, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, Connor Hawke, Helena Bertinelli, Tim Drake, Conner Kent, Bart Allen.
Everyone is struggling since too long.

I had some hope after REBIRTH but it turned out to be a huge lie.
Titans book was horrible maybe the worst Titans run ever.
Dick was in a new good path in Grayson then they turn him back in Nightwing in haste and without ideas culminating in this Ric nonsense.
YJ is too early to properly judge, anyway I'm not enthusiastic at the moment and I'm still on the fence. These characters would need to be fixed in their core franchise before stick around as a group.
Wally West, Roy Harper... better say nothing about them.
Kyle and Guy has been replaced by some lame characters as Jessica and Simon. GLC Rebirth book was one of my favorite, now it's gone.
I enjoyed Superman titles during Rebirth period as I haven't had from so long then Bendis changed everything, especially Jo,n and I've dropped it.
Snyder and his fellow Tynion are not my cup of tea and I decided to stop reading all their works (and I feel better now!) Metal, JL books are exactly what I don't care for.
Tomasi on Batman doesn't work for me, never had so I've dropped Detective too (I love him writing Superman instead).
King on Batman is high and low, one of the few books I still buy.

My pullinglist is down to 3/4 books, it was never so low in the past. One of them is Doomsday Clock that is a bimonthly if not a threemonthly.
Loved Lemire works on Terrifics, I'd give him Titans or YJ immediately if Editorial still care for them.

[Spider-Ham]

I don’t trust DC anymore and I won’t forgive what happened yesterday.

How long before Jon Kent becomes the new Superboy Prime ? How long before Nightwing becomes « Batman’s worst nemesis » ?

My pull list is down to two titles : Shazam! And Doomsday Clock. After that, I’m done.

[IvoryMay]

100% agree on Teen Titans, Grayson, and Batman!

[Noodle]

Read what you like, don't read what you don't.

Has it cut down on the number of comics I read? Yeah, not just from DC but from all publishers. But I enjoy it more because I'm only reading stuff I like and not paying money for stuff I know I'll dislike.

Not to mention, continuity at DC (and Marvel) is basically "Story first, history second" and only matters if the current writer feels like bringing it up. Do things like what Heroes in Crisis did to Wally tick me off? As a huge Wally fan, yes. But I also know the whole thing will be disregarded and pushed aside within two years most likely.

3)Superman titles. I was for Bendis coming onboard but Rogol Zaar is going nowhere, bringing back Jor-el is ridiculous, the Jon Kent character was destroyed, and now supes can change his hair/face/ethnicity on a whim?! Perhaps he should've been doing that all along instead of wearing glasses as a disguise. These titles are going down the toilet.

Jor-El was brought back before Bendis came on. Jurgens brought him back during Rebirth (or, if you want to get technical he was brought back at the tail end of the New 52). Bendis just used him as a way to remove Jon and Lois from the comics for a few months.

Also, Superman doesn't have the power to change his appearance. He has a device that allows him to do so. The concept has been around for decades with characters like Beast and Nightcrawler in X-Men. Why he didn't use it on other journalist assignments that require a disguise, though, is anyone's guess.

The story also established that Clark has to concentrate to maintain the appearance, which would make it a short term thing since trying to maintain a daily job and life while constantly concentrating on maintaining a physical image would be very difficult (hence the glasses as a disguise).

[Adset]

I would also take umbrage with blanketing the "Superman titles" together. Action has been knocking it out of the park.

[thetrellan]

I've been a DC fanboy for as long as I can remember. With that said I am finding myself more and more disappointed with the DC books with each passing week to the point that I'm starting to drop books. Just a few dreadful points off the top of my head:
1)Ric Grayson. Enough already. Get the book back on track or put it out of its misery. Art and writing are terrible. DiDio may not like Dick Grayson but his fans sure do.
2)Bat titles have been on a downward spiral since the bat/cat wedding (that should've happened). And Thomas Wayne working with Bane to destroy his son?! F.U.
3)Superman titles. I was for Bendis coming onboard but Rogol Zaar is going nowhere, bringing back Jor-el is ridiculous, the Jon Kent character was destroyed, and now supes can change his hair/face/ethnicity on a whim?! Perhaps he should've been doing that all along instead of wearing glasses as a disguise. These titles are going down the toilet.
4)Heroes in Crisis - Really??!! This last issue and what was done to Wally is unforgivable. A BIG F.U. to Didio and the writers and staff behind that book.
5)Aquaman - story is a boring mess right now. Perhaps amnesiac Andy can hang out with amnesiac Ric and figure out how to star in a title that I can give a rats a$$ about.

DC...you disappoint me. DiDio needs to go and you should take a long look at your writing and editorial staff.

Spoilers ahead. I actually like the Ric storyline. But yeah, it's probably time they made their point and moved on. I do like aging Jon into his late teens. That dopey kid was kind of annoying to me. But otherwise think Bendis has played too loose and fast with recent events. Yes Jor-El did appear recently and wanted custody of Jon, but was refused by Clark and Lois. Bendis can hardly claim it's too much to research, and anyway I think he lost his mind long ago. So Superman making out with Lois in front of every cell phone camera in sight doesn't elicit the outrage over out-of-character behavior it might once have. Heroes in Crisis? Come on DC. Since when is the Speed Force psychosis inducing? And how did Wally suddenly turn suicidal? Give me a freaking break. I never liked Wally as the Flash, and even I was outraged by this. But Aquaman does help me see a little your point with Ric.

Read what you like, don't read what you don't.

Has it cut down on the number of comics I read? Yeah, not just from DC but from all publishers. But I enjoy it more because I'm only reading stuff I like and not paying money for stuff I know I'll dislike.

Not to mention, continuity at DC (and Marvel) is basically "Story first, history second" and only matters if the current writer feels like bringing it up. Do things like what Heroes in Crisis did to Wally tick me off? As a huge Wally fan, yes. But I also know the whole thing will be disregarded and pushed aside within two years most likely.

Yeeeah. This is exactly what I thought when Barry died. Not saying you should be worried. Just saying.

Jor-El was brought back before Bendis came on. Jurgens brought him back during Rebirth (or, if you want to get technical he was brought back at the tail end of the New 52). Bendis just used him as a way to remove Jon and Lois from the comics for a few months.

But he did a spur of the moment retcon to do it. A retcon of material so recent I, for one, have never before heard of. He saw a missed opportunity, then pretended things happened the way he preferred. Lame. Very lame.

Just after the Bruce/Selina wedding story wrapped up, I decided that since I was sick of not being up on aspects of the DCU, and the overall quality of artwork is such that I no longer actually despise any of it (and anyway have been getting most of the titles as it stood), it wouldn't kill me to go all in and start collecting all of it. And my impression of the DCU right now is that they are headed for yet another retcon. Bigger than Rebirth or Zero Hour, but smaller than CIE or N52. Not just because of things like HIC. Let's face it, folks, if you saw all of what's been going on in a TV show, you would be dead certain the story would end with "it never really happened". This is no show, though. It's a trend that's been going on for the better part of a decade now. But also because of all this stuff with the Source wall falling, the dark multiverse, and all that. It seems likely that when all is put to rights, the DCU will, at the very least, have a new set of rules to follow. With the powers that have been released, I think it very possible that the speed force has been corrupted, especially given how events in the Flash's book have gone down. FLASH 2016 50 (20).jpgI don't believe we'll end up with the recent past having been erased, but damn, isn't that not unlike what Bendis did with Jor-El? Like history itself is hiccuping.

Even so, don't like that HIC can ever be said to have happened. It's like the dark multiverse has infected the light. Don't like it. Don't buy it. Guys, the only sidekick I ever liked was Wally West. And this event is seriously messed up.

[thetrellan]

Spoke too soon. Simonson did a fast retcon of the material revealed to Thor by Odin's oracular floating eyeball. But he didn't pick and choose, he just said you couldn't believe what a floating eye says.