X-Men: Days of Future Past Movie (SPOILERS)

[remydat]

So sexuality is more disturbing than violence? This is my point exactly.

I know what world we are living in. A world that sees gratuitous violence as an acceptable form of entertainment for children. Which will make the coming atrocities all the more palatable to the sheep.

The point was non-bloody violence is normal as is a bare ass ala Jackman in this film and will get you a PG-13. Showing bloody violence or a bunch of tits and ass isn't.

[Supernature]

So violence is okay against beings that don't look 'human'. Ok, check.

LOL Not even what I said but whatever.

The PG-13 rating is consistent with the MPAA rating system since some movies with much more gruesome/graphic deaths got the same.
Those movies are better examples than DoFP to point out their hypocrisy in the ratings. Watch "This Film Is Not Rated" and come back to me.

[yogaflame]

Violence isn't the issue here. Its how much you're going to show that determines the ratings. Not that I'm even sure where the fuck you're even going with this.

This whole thing started because I said I don't think DoFP will pull Avengers numbers because the story is super bleak and not a family-friendly flick. Now people are saying mutant dismembering are a-okay for little kids and naked ass is too(to be clear, I'm fine with naked ass).

[Slant]

As mentioned earlier, said poster was saying how more "accessible" to children X3 was, what with their mass vaporizing Jean. So clearly, whatever argument is being presented isn't much of one.

[remydat]

So violence is okay against beings that don't look 'human'. Ok, check.

How many non-human looking aliens died in the Avengers end battle? Here are some clips. I also see a ton of New Yorkers getting fucked up. I especially love Hulk just Hulk smashing those alien Mofos. Where are all your tears and self-righteous indignation for those Aliens?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTthaChCseU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGqTbhSNl-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQlWmTzB58

[yogaflame]

How many non-human looking aliens died in the Avengers end battle? Here are some clips. I also see a ton of New Yorkers getting fucked up. I especially love Hulk just Hulk smashing those alien Mofos. Where are all your tears and self-righteous indignation for those Aliens?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTthaChCseU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGqTbhSNl-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQlWmTzB58

To be clear, I though The Avengers was crap. My whole point has been that I don't expect DoFP to pull Avengers money because Avengers was a dumb Hollywood movie with a colorful cast of superheroes fighting the good fight to save the world. DoFP is a bleak movie where the superheroes are all slain by death machines and human carcasses are piled up in heaps in the first few minutes.

[Kaiolino]

How many non-human looking aliens died in the Avengers end battle? Here are some clips. I also see a ton of New Yorkers getting fucked up. I especially love Hulk just Hulk smashing those alien Mofos. Where are all your tears and self-righteous indignation for those Aliens?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTthaChCseU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGqTbhSNl-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQlWmTzB58

Those aliens are all sheep, they don't matter.

[Doctor Know]

How many non-human looking aliens died in the Avengers end battle? Here are some clips. I also see a ton of New Yorkers getting fucked up. I especially love Hulk just Hulk smashing those alien Mofos. Where are all your tears and self-righteous indignation for those Aliens?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTthaChCseU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGqTbhSNl-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQlWmTzB58

I don't recall any civilians dying in Avengers. Only cars getting blown up and the Chitauri demonstrating poor marksmen skills akin to the Storm Troopers of the OT

[Super-Cyke]

I don't recall any civilians being shown dying in MOS but that hasn't stopped that films ending battle being accused of holding hundreds of deaths of civilian life.





During Beast and Wolverine's fight near the end with that sentinel near the white house I kept thinking how handy it would have been for Cyclops to have been there!



He could have handled those sentinels and let Beast and Wolvie focus on Magneto

I keep wishing Cyclops will get a scene that demonstrates his fighting ability, similar to how Quicksilver had that awesome scene in DOFP that demonstrated what his power can do. Or that great Nightcrawler opening scene in X2. I felt one of DOFP's strengths was how well it highlighted so many showed off different mutant powers. With this one movie, Fox has made me more excited for future X-films than I am for BvS or Avengers 2 (I'm still pumped for both of those though)

[HsssH]

Killing aliens sadly has become "okay" in most fiction. Even Superman casually fucks up aliens that don't look like humans without anyone giving a damn.

[Batmankoff]

Killing aliens sadly has become "okay" in most fiction. Even Superman casually fucks up aliens that don't look like humans without anyone giving a damn.

Rick and Morty does a great job handling this.

[Doctor Know]

I don't recall any civilians being shown dying in MOS but that hasn't stopped that films ending battle being accused of holding hundreds of deaths of civilian life.

Did you miss the people getting pancaked at the start of the world engine scene; that was accompanied by screams?
MOS made it explicit that human lived were indeed loss. Avengers avoided the subject by not showing any deaths and making the aliens hack and slash fodder, weak enough to be felled but pistol bullets and arrows.

[Young Avenger]

Not really because people naked without cum still garner R ratings. This movie got a PG-13 rating specifically because there was not blood or guts. It's not that complicated.

I just watched Percy Jackson The Lightening Thief. In it, Medusa turns a women to stone while she is grabbing someone else and shortly thereafter one of the heroes breaks the person free by cutting off the hands of the lady just turned into stone. That is akin to Colossus or Iceman dying. They also cut off Medusa's head with no blood. That movie was PG-13 and certainly more of a kid flick than DOFP but the stone deaths and decapitation is normal fare for a PG-13 movie these days.

I think real life has already done a good job of desensitizing kids to violence dude. Don't know what world you are living in. It is well understood that as long as you don't show blood and guts or say a bare ass (like Jackman in this film) you can get a PG-13 rating.

Honestly, I work with kids for a community service project I'm doing, and IMO the majority of kids aren't desensitized to violence, they're just smart enough to know what is a movie and what is real life.

Plus, PG-13 doesn't mean kids. It means parental guidance for children under the age of 13. That means teens and up should be fine seeing it (and I don't remember anything that I think a teen shouldn't be able to see). If a parent wants to take their child to it, they understand that the film is directed at an elder audience. I just don't see an issue here.

Plus correct me if I'm wrong but to those saying the Avengers was better in this regard wasn't there a scene with Banner naked as well?

[Super-Cyke]

Did you miss the people getting pancaked at the start of the world engine scene, accompanied by screams?
MOS mad it explicit that human lived were indeed loss. Avengers avoided the subject by not showing any deaths and making the aliens hack and slash fodder, weak enough to be felled but pistol bullets and arrows.

That scene with the terra-forming machine, I will give you that. It's clear Superman is racing against time to destroy part of the machine and as he destroys it, the female Daily Planet character survives

But the end scene, Metropolis looks completely vacant. More vacant than the New York shown in the Avengers finale

[remydat]

To be clear, I though The Avengers was crap. My whole point has been that I don't expect DoFP to pull Avengers money because Avengers was a dumb Hollywood movie with a colorful cast of superheroes fighting the good fight to save the world. DoFP is a bleak movie where the superheroes are all slain by death machines and human carcasses are piled up in heaps in the first few minutes.

Yes but you are claiming the violence here was worse. I am saying having Hulk throw Aliens around like Rag dolls and bashing their heads in is the same because in both cases those Aliens and those mutants were in CGI stats if you will. And Storm and Blink's deaths were akin to Coulson's.

In fact, the Avengers initially got a R -Rating twice because of the Coulson death scene. They had to go back and recut the movie twice to avoid doing so. So the Storm and Blink impalement deaths were certainly done in a way to specifically avoid the same issues.

http://www.slashfilm.com/avengers-r-rating/

I don't recall any civilians dying in Avengers. Only cars getting blown up and the Chitauri demonstrating poor marksmen skills akin to the Storm Troopers of the OT

They died, they just weren't shown dying again to avoid the R rating. It's been referenced that thousands died that day including in Marvel Agents of Shield.