Alright, alright - DCEU Supes versus MCU Captain Marvel

[regnak]

The boxer can still throw a punch, and probably won't bounce off their opponents head with no effect. That is a considerable gap.

After punching for those 10 rounds and taking blows in return said punch will be weaker. How much weaker depends how on how tired and how battered the boxer is. If he had an easy time his punch will be stronger than if he has already taken severe punishment like Thanos did.

[rhyvurg]

Quick note, the impressive part of this feat is her overcoming the thrust of the missile, not the weight of the thing itself.

Even so, Clark dragging that massive icebreaker places him at hundreds of times her strength level, and if you coult catching Aquaman's trident one handed with zero effort, potentially he's thousands of times stronger than her.

I'm feeling not especially swayed either way comparing Clark and Carol's strength. I think trying to do so seems to involve a level of attempted calculations on both sides I feel distasteful, because I don't think it is really how these stories operate. And the attempts to downplay both sides also feels distasteful. I do think Clark's best outdoes Hulk, Thor, and even Thanos for strength and durability. Carol might be stronger, but she might be weaker, and I'm sort of inclined to say they are equals. I don't know that she has any durability feats comparable to the nuke, though we haven't seen her ceiling either.

As such, I think Clark beats her via blitz. I also don't recall her displaying a level of AoE that would impair him. Best thing I remember is shaking a bunch of nearby space ships, which doesn't feel relevant. But she's pretty clearly top dog overall in the MCU now.

Thor's best measurable physical feat is still far better than hers.

[Twickster]

Even so, Clark dragging that massive icebreaker places him at hundreds of times her strength level, and if you coult catching Aquaman's trident one handed with zero effort, potentially he's thousands of times stronger than her.

As previously stated, no.

Thor's best measurable physical feat is still far better than hers.

This, however, should be yes. However, Thor's best strength feat is *so* outside all his other performances its usually considered SMvsFL.

[Pendaran]

As previously stated, no.



This, however, should be yes. However, Thor's best strength feat is *so* outside all his other performances its usually considered SMvsFL.

What's being regarded as his best strength feat here?

[Twickster]

What's being regarded as his best strength feat here?

I'm gonna go with restarting the rings of Nidavellir here, but as stated, SMvsFL.

[The Arbiter]

What's being regarded as his best strength feat here?

Presumably him and rocket getting the star forge working.

[Pendaran]

Presumably him and rocket getting the star forge working.

Having watched Endgame, nothing came even close to that from him that I could see, so, yeah.

[The Arbiter]

So, you're saying Superman is strong enough to casually hold back Aquaman with one hand, whom in turn you are crediting with the full submarine lift at high speed while pushing all that water out of the way and lifting the nose over a dozen feet out of the water through sheer momentum? Either way, Superman is still stronger than she is.



Yes I saw. She does have a barrier, because she was glowing. Glow=barrier. And I agree with the people who think his head didn't even touch her. Why? Because earlier in the same fight he was able to harm her physically, and her hair didn't even move. He did not make contact.



As for this...I have no idea why you posted it. I never said anything about a moon, or 616 Iron Man, or that "class 80" nonsense that wikis like for some reason.

1: Yes, I am fine giving the full implications of that sub feat to Aquaman as we have happily done so in his comic book medium. Yes I believe Superman stopping him despite that feat is legit based on presentation.

2: I'll let the people who were arguing for the barrier theory speak here. But I will point out that he was /not/ in fact harming her prior to the head butt. Just tossed her iirc. She was fine until the power stone punch.

3: I'm pointing out the logical flaws and implications associated with you trying to compartmentalize strength feats as a way to discredit them. You say Carol's "flight thrust" was a factor to catching the missile and we would have "no idea if her feet were planted on the floor". It's a strength feat. Otherwise her arms would have bent under the pressures of the opposing "flight thrusts" and she would have smacked her face into the missile.

Me mentioning Superman and Iron Man in comics is me taking your "flight thrust" argument to its darkest point. I can say that Superman moving the moon is just a feat of his power of flight and not strength. I can say Iron Man's rocket boots are class 80 but not his arms. After all, their greatest feats of strength were done while flying.

[The Dork Knight]

Having watched Endgame, nothing came even close to that from him that I could see, so, yeah.

Yeah,well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Eating Volstagg probably gave him like his own gravitational field. To be able to move at all was a massive feat in itself.

[Pendaran]

Yeah,well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Eating Volstagg probably gave him like his own gravitational field. To be able to move at all was a massive feat in itself.

Endgame had a super missed opportunity to have Thor completely act like The Dude in every single scene as opposed to mostly just dress like him.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Having watched Endgame, nothing came even close to that from him that I could see, so, yeah.

But did you see him do worse.

All I saw, was The Dude, rack up some killer feats, my man.

[big_adventure]

Little known fact:

The Russos are HUUUUUGE Volstagg fans but HATE Thor. Waititi killed off Volstagg like a bitch in Ragnarok. Infinity War and Endgame are all just sneaky revenge porn against the God of Thunder, with the final result of transforming him into the new Lion of Asgard.

Check it: he presides over Asgard for the destruction of the planet and the death of 75% of the population (50% twice). He should have died then lived. Acts silly. Should win but loses because stupid. Then turns into the Dude, who is just a pale copy of Volstagg. Right down to the gut and the braids and the cowardice.

[Pendaran]

Being real I did kinda feel like the Russos hated Thor a bit ;p

[big_adventure]

Being as fair as one might, it could also just be that they found a really creative solution to the "this one guy could end everything instantly... If only he were there..." problem. Especially compared to Age of Ultron's "hmmmmm Thor would end any of the open story lines instantly... I know, let's have him go to a magical hot tub for an hour!" or God forbid JL's "Superman ends this threat in one more punch, soooooo let's have the guy with horrifying superspeed stop, chat, then fly off without taking that punch." move.

[The Arbiter]

Being real I did kinda feel like the Russos hated Thor a bit ;p

I've heard that Chris Hemsworth himself did most of the pushing for a goofier weirder Thor. He was bored playing the character after Thor 2. Hence why Ragnarok was sooo much goofier. Awesome movie, just different.