Ghost Rider & Helstrom MCU Hulu Series

[Frontier]

I think the ultimate problem is Feige/Marvel Studios just doesn't want to address/acknowledge Marvel Television.

[Tofali]

He can ignore the Netflix TV show but the rest of the other shows like, AOS, Runaways and Cloak & Dagger will appear in Disney+

[Cmbmool]

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/hul...ticle-comments
No more Ghost Rider!

I'm angry on this as I did enjoy seeing the MCU TV Take on Robbie Reyes and Gabriel Luna fit the character so well.

[Cmbmool]

I think the ultimate problem is Feige/Marvel Studios just doesn't want to address/acknowledge Marvel Television.

Not unless we fans put the pressure on him for this.

[Tofali]

Not unless we fans put the pressure on him for this.

Majority of MCU fans ignore anything connected to AOS so most ppl will wait for either a Feige produced limited series or a movie.

[H-E-D]

I'm not really interested in Ghost Rider showing up in a Feige production. There's more interesting properties he could tackle, and if the rest of Marvel Horror is partitioned on Hulu, then it doesn't really give them much to play with.

[Mike_Murdock]

I think the ultimate problem is Feige/Marvel Studios just doesn't want to address/acknowledge Marvel Television.

This doesn't make sense. Robbie Reyes already was part of Marvel Television. Canceling his own show doesn't change that. If you're saying Feige could just ignore Agents of SHIELD, why couldn't he ignore this too?

[Jabare]

The movies aren't beholden to the tv shows nor do they try to be. The movies do what they want to do and try to stay accurate to the movie universe. The tv shows work around the movies and make reference but it's not like the movies ever do the same. Look at Agents of Shield between the Inhumans and Coulson's S.H.I.E.L.D. in the press you'd think that be kind of hard to ignore. But the movies don't concern themselves with that.

Honestly, it's a smarter decision. The movies have a much bigger audience than the tv show. It'd be like Star Wars forcefully adhering to their extended Universe in the movies despite over half the audience not watching/reading those stories.

[H-E-D]

The movies aren't beholden to the tv shows nor do they try to be. The movies do what they want to do and try to stay accurate to the movie universe. The tv shows work around the movies and make reference but it's not like the movies ever do the same. Look at Agents of Shield between the Inhumans and Coulson's S.H.I.E.L.D. in the press you'd think that be kind of hard to ignore. But the movies don't concern themselves with that.

Honestly, it's a smarter decision. The movies have a much bigger audience than the tv show. It'd be like Star Wars forcefully adhering to their extended Universe in the movies despite over half the audience not watching/reading those stories.

Honestly, it isn't completely unlike the approach in the comics.

[Frontier]

The movies aren't beholden to the tv shows nor do they try to be. The movies do what they want to do and try to stay accurate to the movie universe. The tv shows work around the movies and make reference but it's not like the movies ever do the same. Look at Agents of Shield between the Inhumans and Coulson's S.H.I.E.L.D. in the press you'd think that be kind of hard to ignore. But the movies don't concern themselves with that.

Honestly, it's a smarter decision. The movies have a much bigger audience than the tv show. It'd be like Star Wars forcefully adhering to their extended Universe in the movies despite over half the audience not watching/reading those stories.

Yeah, if you want shows really connected to the movies, that's what the Disney+ originals are for.

[Drops Of Venus]

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/hul...ticle-comments
No more Ghost Rider!

I was just thinking about the rumor of Feige wanting to use Ghost Rider and how that would be awkward while Marvel TV is also exploring the franchise. And then this happens... which yeah, doesn't feel coincidental at all. They claim it was because of ''creative differences'' but remember: that was the same excuse they gave back when Luke Cage was cancelled after a season 3 was already being planned, and we know now that it wasn't creative differences that led to every single Marvel show on Netflix to be cancelled.

And now that I think about it, there were also rumors that Marvel TV and Marvel Studios were fighting over Blade, and now I'm starting to believe those were real. Jeph Loeb has referred to this Hulu initiative as ''Spirits Of Vengeance'', which is the name of the comic that had Blade, Ghost Rider and the Hellstroms teaming up. I have the feeling Marvel TV was building up to that on Hulu, and then Marvel Studios came along and snatched Blade. Now they might've snatched Ghost Rider as well. Moon Knight could make for a good Hulu show, but Marvel Studios took that one too. There is no point in keeping Marvel TV as it is if they're gonna keep being undermined like that by Marvel Studios. It's about time Disney does to Marvel TV what they did to Marvel Studios: divorce them from Marvel Entertainment and let them work closely with Marvel Studios and Disney instead of against them.

I think the ultimate problem is Feige/Marvel Studios just doesn't want to address/acknowledge Marvel Television.

And after the recent revelations from Bob Iger's book, describing just how bad things were between Feige and Perlmutter (Feige almost quit at one point), yeah, I can see why that would be the case. Until Perlmutter is gone or Marvel TV answers directly to Feige and his team, I fear nothing's gonna change.

This doesn't make sense. Robbie Reyes already was part of Marvel Television. Canceling his own show doesn't change that. If you're saying Feige could just ignore Agents of SHIELD, why couldn't he ignore this too?

If Feige wants to use Ghost Rider in a big way, maybe even giving him his own production, then it would be a conflict of interest for them to allow a Marvel show with the same name to be produced at the same time. That could cause some IP confusion and competition within Marvel that they likely would want to avoid. That's the reason why Inhumans only got a show after the movie was cancelled. That show never would've happened if Feige had gone through with his plans of making a movie out of that particular franchise.

[Mike_Murdock]

Why would they blame Hulu under that scenario?

[Captain Craig]

Use Alejandra just for kicks.

As a fan of hers I'm all for this.
I have a love/hate with the Absolute Carnage tie-in Symbiote of Vengeance but I see ways for her to come back. They alluded to it. Also, the art in that book was awesome!

[mace11]

Ghost Rider in Development for Marvel Studios & Disney+

[mace11]

Marvel TV was Embarrassed by MCU & Kevin Feige - MCU TV & Disney Plus Future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AauCzT3muQ0