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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Alpha View Post
    Better than have Emma actually be evil.

    Although either plot is pointless.
    I wouldn't mind if Emma was a villain or a anti-hero, it's better give some agency than take it away

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Hope influencing the team or Rosenberg is running fast with the plot because of Hickman arriving, so he has less time to develop conflicts
    Both are legit possibilities. It's just that Hope is in crazy grief mode over Cable's death and Sinister is kinda super good at resurrecting/cloning people. Heck, we routinely get alliances/relationships built on lamer set-ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    The writing was played for laughs
    And that is terrible. You can not rape a character for laughs

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    Ah man, Logan left the simulation. Is he gonna die in the exact same way as Rahne?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Ah man, Logan left the simulation. Is he gonna die in the exact same way as Rahne?
    He can't die

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Ah man, Logan left the simulation. Is he gonna die in the exact same way as Rahne?
    And lose that team up gold opportunity with Conan the Barbarian, lets be honest Logan left because way more interesting stuff is going in Savage Land. Or at least; Duggan is better than Rosenburg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    The writing was played for laughs
    Yeah, let's think this through for a second: imagine if a man wanted to rape his ex-wife with whom he has a kid, and does so by drugging her and pretending to be her current partner. This would be a traumatic event that would cause upheaval with comic readers and not just them. However, since the genders were reversed and the ex-wife is hot, then it's no big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    If an old double standard that happens very often in comics sadly, Nightwing, Wolverine, Batman, Green Arrow and probably few more went through the same.
    What?!!
    When was Logan raped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Ah man, Logan left the simulation. Is he gonna die in the exact same way as Rahne?
    He'll be back to remind them they were wrong. Or he will be in need of rescue himself.
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    Is it the artists’ job to forget Karma’s leg? Is it just a glitch in X’s world?

    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    He can't die
    hmm hot very hot. also I can’t handle Logan complaining about all his students being dead when he was screwing around at a bar, ignoring them. And everyone talking about the dead but not actually....acting like they lost people is so jarring and it really makes me think everyone’s coming back by the time Rosencanny is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    I wouldn't mind if Emma was a villain or a anti-hero, it's better give some agency than take it away
    One can have agency and be a hero (or anti-hero) and an X-man. Being a villain is pure character regression because she was that way when the writers and editors were growing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCyclopsRLZ View Post
    1. Yes, but she didn't make Emma watch. That last part's the important bit. Also, I'm kinda totally aware of the ugly implications of that scene and the mind-numbing double standard.
    2. Maddie is one of the very few people Sinister actually likes. He'd borrow/tweak one of her ideas and not feel too bad about it.
    But why would Sinister care. Emma and Scott hasn't been together for some time

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    The Marauders are back. Claims they did not touch the Morlocks. If that's true, Sunspot was mentioned to be in the sewers, and we still haven't gotten the Uncanny WoR portion. So it's possible Rosenberg is writing Creed re-massacring the Morlocks. Sunspot may have defeated him & decided to stay down there for a bit to protect them. Hence is seemingly deceased status with staying off the map. Or *laughs*, he really did get killed in the battle. I doubt it.

    Then again, Chamber was down in the sewers too, so you'd think he knew what happened. So he'd know if the Marauders were guilty or not, and he seems pretty pissed. Unless it's not the Morlocks, but they took Shogo or something.

    This is the issue with releasing stuff out of order. Chances are the WoR stuff has some possibly crucial info in it since it takes place between issue events in 15 & 16. Yet we can't even see what it is until we're on issue 18, ready for 19. With the last part of the ite-in coming between issues 20-21.

    They shouldn't worked this better .lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Alpha View Post
    Yeah, and is really indicative of the state of comics, or fiction in general, that a character is raped and is no big deal, because it's a man and the lady raping him was hot. Indeed, is not even brought up again.
    But people would say he was okay with the kinky sex because it was Emma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixzero23 View Post
    What?!!
    When was Logan raped?
    Back in Japan, Mystique was disguised as Yukio, is explicity stated that he wouldn't have done that if he knew that it was her, so yeah..., he probably doesn't know about it though, i'm not sure if he ever found out about his ruse.
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