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I think this fact needs more attention. People are happy about how #1 sold but the sharp drop-off with #2 seems unprecedented to me.
I mean just compare War of the Realms to Secret Empire:
War of Realms 1 187,851
War of Realms 2 70,704
Secret Empire 1 157,517
Secret Empire 2 100,983
[...]
Secret Empire 10 86,123
In other words, War of the Realms is already below the final issue of Secret Empire and it's only in its second issue. This is extremely bad for War of the Realms, who knows how low #6 will get before this is all over.
The first issue being so continuity driven by Jason Aaron's Thor didn't help much. It's one of those things where if you hadn't been keeping up with his run over the years, there's likely not much you're going to get from this event, even with other characters guest starring.
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Yeah - which derailed several books. Miles Morales got dragged in when Bendis should have still been showing him adjusting to being in 616 (I wonder if that was Bendis's choice, or if he was asked to tie him in in order to set up what Miles does in Secret Empire?), A-Force wound up cancelled due to what happened to She-Hulk (it would've only got one more arc anyway as IVX would've removed Medusa), Patsy Walker's book had to replace Jen with Jubilee, ANAD Avengers was also disrupted, with no proper ending before Champions launched (Nadia was clearly originally meant to join the team when Kamala, Miles and Nova were still there), Captain Marvel got hit hard because of what she did to Iron Man, and even Iron Man, which was by the same writer as CWII, had to accelerate Ironheart's introduction.
Last edited by Digifiend; 05-14-2019 at 06:03 AM.
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Events with an assload of build-up trump out of nowhere events every single time. And as for WOTR, maybe the higher drop is related to the extra dollar Marvel slapped on a 20 page comic. (Which Hick-Men will also probably do.)
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Interesting that Rob Liefeld's much-ballyhooed MAJOR X is a low-seller.
Perhaps this was underordered and there will be massive reorders and an uptick on the later issues, but I have a feeling that Major X is just a flavor of the month type thing like pretty much any new X-character introduced in the last 25+ years.
Likewise, the latest MARVEL TEAM-UP relaunch didn't set the world on fire. It's interesting that ever since the early 1980s, team up titles, whether from Marvel or DC, just haven't had the same interest as they did during the 1970s.
Sales for Immortal Hulk are great, obviously, and it'll be interesting to see if this is the beginning of a trend or just a one-month spike due to a variant cover.
However, sales for Captain America (38,047 copies), Daredevil (33,373), and Tony Stark Iron Man (29,158) are really godawful. It's even worse considering they were just relaunched and only Iron Man has reached its 10th issue. Daredevil is this low at issue #4!
As I said in the April Sales thread on the DC forum, DC's average sales are actually a little HIGHER than Marvel's at this point. Marvel is getting its market share by flooding product into the stores, but a lot of it is low selling, and the 167 titles that Marvel had in the Top 500 (which does include reorders), might be taking sales away from their core characters.
https://community.cbr.com/showthread...=1#post4353837
Even Thor #12 sold around 40k copies. This might be why the WAR OF THE REALMS event is experiencing such big dropoffs on the main series, and the connected minis are really underperforming. Giving such a big event over to a mediocre selling core title like Thor isn't going to get the same results as a Civil War sequel, of course.
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VARIANT 1 - Italic, small font
Interesting that Rob Liefeld's much-ballyhooed MAJOR X is a low-seller.
Perhaps this was underordered and there will be massive reorders and an uptick on the later issues, but I have a feeling that Major X is just a flavor of the month type thing like pretty much any new X-character introduced in the last 25+ years.
Likewise, the latest MARVEL TEAM-UP relaunch didn't set the world on fire. It's interesting that ever since the early 1980s, team up titles, whether from Marvel or DC, just haven't had the same interest as they did during the 1970s.
Sales for Immortal Hulk are great, obviously, and it'll be interesting to see if this is the beginning of a trend or just a one-month spike due to a variant cover.
However, sales for Captain America (38,047 copies), Daredevil (33,373), and Tony Stark Iron Man (29,158) are really godawful. It's even worse considering they were just relaunched and only Iron Man has reached its 10th issue. Daredevil is this low at issue #4!
As I said in the April Sales thread on the DC forum, DC's average sales are actually a little HIGHER than Marvel's at this point. Marvel is getting its market share by flooding product into the stores, but a lot of it is low selling, and the 167 titles that Marvel had in the Top 500 (which does include reorders), might be taking sales away from their core characters.
https://community.cbr.com/showthread...=1#post4353837
Even Thor #12 sold around 40k copies. This might be why the WAR OF THE REALMS event is experiencing such big dropoffs on the main series, and the connected minis are really underperforming. Giving such a big event over to a mediocre selling core title like Thor isn't going to get the same results as a Civil War sequel, of course.
VARIANT 2 - Blue, small font
Interesting that Rob Liefeld's much-ballyhooed MAJOR X is a low-seller.
Perhaps this was underordered and there will be massive reorders and an uptick on the later issues, but I have a feeling that Major X is just a flavor of the month type thing like pretty much any new X-character introduced in the last 25+ years.
Likewise, the latest MARVEL TEAM-UP relaunch didn't set the world on fire. It's interesting that ever since the early 1980s, team up titles, whether from Marvel or DC, just haven't had the same interest as they did during the 1970s.
Sales for Immortal Hulk are great, obviously, and it'll be interesting to see if this is the beginning of a trend or just a one-month spike due to a variant cover.
However, sales for Captain America (38,047 copies), Daredevil (33,373), and Tony Stark Iron Man (29,158) are really godawful. It's even worse considering they were just relaunched and only Iron Man has reached its 10th issue. Daredevil is this low at issue #4!
As I said in the April Sales thread on the DC forum, DC's average sales are actually a little HIGHER than Marvel's at this point. Marvel is getting its market share by flooding product into the stores, but a lot of it is low selling, and the 167 titles that Marvel had in the Top 500 (which does include reorders), might be taking sales away from their core characters.
https://community.cbr.com/showthread...=1#post4353837
Even Thor #12 sold around 40k copies. This might be why the WAR OF THE REALMS event is experiencing such big dropoffs on the main series, and the connected minis are really underperforming. Giving such a big event over to a mediocre selling core title like Thor isn't going to get the same results as a Civil War sequel, of course.
VARIANT 3 - Red, bold, italic, small font
Interesting that Rob Liefeld's much-ballyhooed MAJOR X is a low-seller.
Perhaps this was underordered and there will be massive reorders and an uptick on the later issues, but I have a feeling that Major X is just a flavor of the month type thing like pretty much any new X-character introduced in the last 25+ years.
Likewise, the latest MARVEL TEAM-UP relaunch didn't set the world on fire. It's interesting that ever since the early 1980s, team up titles, whether from Marvel or DC, just haven't had the same interest as they did during the 1970s.
Sales for Immortal Hulk are great, obviously, and it'll be interesting to see if this is the beginning of a trend or just a one-month spike due to a variant cover.
However, sales for Captain America (38,047 copies), Daredevil (33,373), and Tony Stark Iron Man (29,158) are really godawful. It's even worse considering they were just relaunched and only Iron Man has reached its 10th issue. Daredevil is this low at issue #4!
As I said in the April Sales thread on the DC forum, DC's average sales are actually a little HIGHER than Marvel's at this point. Marvel is getting its market share by flooding product into the stores, but a lot of it is low selling, and the 167 titles that Marvel had in the Top 500 (which does include reorders), might be taking sales away from their core characters.
https://community.cbr.com/showthread...=1#post4353837
Even Thor #12 sold around 40k copies. This might be why the WAR OF THE REALMS event is experiencing such big dropoffs on the main series, and the connected minis are really underperforming. Giving such a big event over to a mediocre selling core title like Thor isn't going to get the same results as a Civil War sequel, of course.
Last edited by Comic-Reader Lad; 05-14-2019 at 07:37 AM.
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Yep. It is worse than this though. Uncanny is equally just filling space. It is literally tidying up some key characters to place them in the right position for a relaunch. Nominally there has been an ongoing story running in from Astonishing, but it’s not an important story.
The X-books have been a mess since Secret Wars. A few interesting titles but the flagship books just loose their way. Every attempt to sort the problem lasts a few issues and they change tack, so there is no clear ongoing narrative.
Last edited by JKtheMac; 05-14-2019 at 09:31 AM.