Uncanny X-Men #18 spoilers and discussion

[Havok83]

Rosenber’s X-Men is to Hickman’s X-Men as Avengers Disassembled is to New Avengers

I dont agree with this at all.

[salarta]

X-Men Blue was mentioned by C.B. for things leading into Hickman.

This makes sense to me, and actually goes a long way to explaining a lot of things. Why Lorna's return on X-Men Blue got hijacked to put Havok on a pedestal at her expense. Why Marvel's tried to sneakily force Havok onto Lorna again in small ways, and keep her story and potential buried under being a supporting character for men. Cause that's how they want people to see her, and they're prepping audiences for her being treated that way if she gets used in the future.

For those (including myself) who feel none of this matters anymore since Hickman is coming, C.B. Cebulski sets the record straight here:

https://twitter.com/CBCebulski/statu...03167943188480

Jubilee is quite happy with the whole thing:
https://www.facebook.com/10000137455...4427&sfns=xmwa

Cebulski setting the record straight, and the public perception coming out of it (not to mention how execution actually plays out) are different things. I don't see how they can change the public perception no matter what they do.

[jalsrix]

This issue , 3 X-Men are out of the team i.e. Havok, Chamber and Karma.

The 8 members left on the team are Cyclops, Madrox, Dani, Illyana, Banshee, Juggernaut, Hope and maybe Wolvie is coming back.

I had wished Hope was the one who died instead of Chamber or Rahne.....

[Kurolegacy]

This issue , 3 X-Men are out of the team i.e. Havok, Chamber and Karma.

The 8 members left on the team are Cyclops, Madrox, Dani, Illyana, Banshee, Juggernaut, Hope and maybe Wolvie is coming back.

I had wished Hope was the one who died instead of Chamber or Rahne.....

Speaking of Hope, has she even said a word since the issue she joined the team?

[jalsrix]

Speaking of Hope, has she even said a word since the issue she joined the team?

Yeah, she said 'you first' before blasting Harpoon. She's literally a female Cable.

But the strange thing is why did Cyclops not admonish her against killing again, when Cyclops just admonished Chamber.

Hope is dangerous in the team as she has no qualms about killing humans and mutants.

[Havok83]

Same thing. What's the point of being angry?

Who's angry, you?

[Snoop Dogg]

Who's angry, you?

Today, I went on a pilgrimage to Five Guys and got two little hamburgers. They were good, but I decided not to get a drink. I wish I got a drink. I am peeved, which is a degree of angry. And that's my secret, Cap.

[Hulkout42]

Given that this whole thing leads to Hickman’s story, I really hope there’s some kind of grand plan here because we’re 8 issues into Rosenberg‘s run and we have more blood on the ground than a slasher picture. He can’t expect the deaths to still have much impact anymore especially when they keep coming every few issues.

Hickman is notorious for grand plans and playing the long game, and for the most part it pays off though it doesn't seem that way at first so i have high hopes that Hickman will deliver on the X-men.

[CellarDweller]

I've been trying to keep an open mind about this, but the deaths of Rahne, Jono, and the departures of Logan and Xi'an are just not sitting well with me. It all seems like such a waste.

[Omega Alpha]

Who's angry, you?

No, I meant Sinister. Why he's so mad at the Marauders being attacked?

[Kurolegacy]

Yeah, she said 'you first' before blasting Harpoon. She's literally a female Cable.

But the strange thing is why did Cyclops not admonish her against killing again, when Cyclops just admonished Chamber.

Hope is dangerous in the team as she has no qualms about killing humans and mutants.

He admonished her in War of the Realms. She gave no craps about it or the fact that she shot out his eye and was completely unapologetic about it. Sometimes I wonder if it’s the writer’s goals to make Hope completely unlikable considering they literally just make her Cable with boobs and none of the charisma.

I've been trying to keep an open mind about this, but the deaths of Rahne, Jono, and the departures of Logan and Xi'an are just not sitting well with me. It all seems like such a waste.

Logan at least has a possibility of coming back. Xi’an’s departure was just cowardly. When you screw up like that in a superhero comic, you don’t just run from your mistake, you face it and redeem yourself. It just feels like he doesn’t want to write the New Mutants so he’s just writing them off one by one.

[PsychoEFrost]

He admonished her in War of the Realms. She gave no craps about it or the fact that she shot out his eye and was completely unapologetic about it. Sometimes I wonder if it’s the writer’s goals to make Hope completely unlikable considering they literally just make her Cable with boobs and none of the charisma.

I mean, she was raised in a dystopian hellscape by a soldier with no sense of humor.

[bearman]

Hell, did Banshee even have a conversation with Jono, his former student, before Chamber died?

[Kurolegacy]

I mean, she was raised in a dystopian hellscape by a soldier with no sense of humor.

So was Cable aside from the soldier parent part and he's at least got charisma. She's like someone tried to make a female clone of Cable and failed.

[PsychoEFrost]

So was Cable aside from the soldier parent part and he's at least got charisma. She's like someone tried to make a female clone of Cable and failed.

He has charisma because Scott and Jean partially raised him. Cable has very poor social skills, and even less help with her.