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    Quote Originally Posted by PrezValentine View Post
    Why did Franklin come up when that panel was Havok saving Emma in the final battle of IvX? Maybe you guys just erased it from your memories due to how bad it was, but that was the moment shown.
    Yeah, I guess it was. I looked it up but adult Havok looks remarkably like adult Franklin, down to the armour.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    Doubtful.

    Haven't seen anything from him close to the level of even kid Franklin without considerable strain.

    Even with the life seed in his possession holding together this reality he created is taxing his power.

    It's laughable to compare him to Owen Reece. Do you know what MM is capable of?
    Before Shaman when he couldn't use all his powers, he whooped Professor X on the Astral Plane (although I'll warrant that's because Xavier was more concerned about him than the fight), scanned every mind on Earth in seconds, recreated Madelyne Pryor (and then she raped him) and Gwen Stacy, easily beat Jean Grey in a telepathic battle, Mr. Fantastic notes that if he broke his limits then all hell could break loose, is called the most potent force by Apocalypse and at one point he did break all limits and became practically Godly until his mind connected with Stryfe (which caused an issue because he technically is Stryfe).

    As a Shaman Nate blew up Queen Jean by overloading her with power, used the multiverse as a stepladder, linked minds across universes, technically doesn't even need his body, can exit time itself and literally fused with every being on Earth and still brought himself back to life after that.

    Life Seed Nate is stronger than Shaman Nate but unlike Shaman Nate, he's dying, so he's technically getting weaker as each action is taxing away his life but even then, maintaining an entire universe as he's doing while dying is pretty impressive.

    That being said, Pre-Shaman Nate, Shaman Nate and Life Seed Nate are not as close to being as powerful as God Nate who we saw for a few panels.

    Nate could probably stomp Owen Reece or Franklin in just as many ways as Owen or Franklin could probably stomp him.
    Last edited by Drexelhand; 05-16-2019 at 05:50 PM.

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