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    It's kind of interesting that some other Trek productions say that First Contact didn't exactly fix all the problems right away. The Q trial scenes that bookend TNG are supposed to re-create conditions in 2079 I think, so it's obvious that mankind still had a lot to learn, or Cochran's discovery hadn't reached everybody right away.
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    I really hope this doesn’t suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    I really hope this doesn’t suck.
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    I think it would be almost impossible to suck

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    I'm sad the Federation/Starfleet aren't being portrayed more sympathetically, forcing Picard to choose his rag tag band of sexy young people... but I'm really hoping this is fun, positive, and true to the ideals of Trek that were mostly forgotten in Discovery s1 but fortunately found again for s2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    I think it would be almost impossible to suck
    Alex Kurtzman Nuff Said for it to happen but hoping it won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    Alex Kurtzman Nuff Said for it to happen but hoping it won't.
    Discovery's been solid so far and it seems like a passion project for Stewart so with those combined I'd stand by my statement that it has zero chances of sucking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    Discovery's been solid so far and it seems like a passion project for Stewart so with those combined I'd stand by my statement that it has zero chances of sucking.
    Discovery is awful from both story and continuity 1st Trek ever that I hated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    Discovery's been solid so far and it seems like a passion project for Stewart so with those combined I'd stand by my statement that it has zero chances of sucking.
    That math does not check out.

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    The trailer gave me chills. It looked quite good.

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    Data...LOL. Super weird looking.
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    Brent Spiner aged. *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    Brent Spiner aged. *shrugs*
    It's not that he aged. It's the make-up they used to try to make him look like he hasn't aged...yeeesh. Maybe it gets better after the pilot. *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    (Not seen in the actual episode, but Picard's flashbacks and dialogue state she was there off-screen) in First Contact
    I never took that literally. I assumed she was "always there" in his mind as a be part of the Collective. Like a hub, or a administrator or something.

    and also in Voyager (Although Susanna Thompson also played the Borg Queen, I think she was clearly intended to be the same as the Krige version-identical design and most of her alien traits are the same).
    I think that's the case too. When Krige did come back to the role they didn't acknowledge any difference.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    It's kind of interesting that some other Trek productions say that First Contact didn't exactly fix all the problems right away. The Q trial scenes that bookend TNG are supposed to re-create conditions in 2079 I think, so it's obvious that mankind still had a lot to learn, or Cochran's discovery hadn't reached everybody right away.
    Yeah, Star Trek Enterprise mentioned that the last war on Earth was 50 years ago or something like that, and the ship launched in 2151.
    The trial scene had Q say something like "there's no talk of United Earth here". It may not have been intended to be a proper noun at the time, but United Earth ends up being the name of the world government.

    Quote Originally Posted by nx01a View Post
    I'm sad the Federation/Starfleet aren't being portrayed more sympathetically, forcing Picard to choose his rag tag band of sexy young people...
    Starfleet as an institution is almost always an obstacle if not outright antagonistic to the heroes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
    Alex Kurtzman Nuff Said for it to happen but hoping it won't.
    Supposedly he's less directly involved in this one. so let's hope.

    Quote Originally Posted by G. Boney View Post
    It's the make-up they used to try to make him look like he hasn't aged...yeeesh. Maybe it gets better after the pilot. *shrugs*
    I think it might be a digital effect they're using, but it's not very good.
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