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    What do they mean by live action? Is it gonna have real people in too instead of being an animal world. Or is it gonna be Lion king photorealistic CGI for eveything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    I'm not sure I agree that the creators of the original animated productions are really owed anything from the CGI remakes.

    Care to elaborate why you think so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    I'm not sure I agree that the creators of the original animated productions are really owed anything from the CGI remakes.

    Care to elaborate why you think so?
    Because if it wasn't Disney doing these remakes, they'd be sued for plagiarism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Because if it wasn't Disney doing these remakes, they'd be sued for plagiarism?
    Isn't that more or less linked to the fact that Disney owns the animated Aladdin production?

    I'm pretty sure they can do a lot of things with it, legally, that say...I, myself, am not allowed to...because...I don't own it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    Isn't that more or less linked to the fact that Disney owns the animated Aladdin production?

    I'm pretty sure they can do a lot of things with it, legally, that say...I, myself, am not allowed to...because...I don't own it.
    They can do anything they want with it yes, but again, if it was anyone but Disney releasing these movies, they would be sued for plagiarism. The original animators did all the scenes, all the dialogue and are getting jack all. Call me crazy, but I don' think that's right

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    They can do anything they want with it yes, but again, if it was anyone but Disney releasing these movies, they would be sued for plagiarism. The original animators did all the scenes, all the dialogue and are getting jack all. Call me crazy, but I don' think that's right
    And they were hired to do these things...by whom?

    Did they not get paid for the original animated movies or something?

    I feel like I'm missing a large and important component to your through-process, here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    And they were hired to do these things...by whom?

    Did they not get paid for the original animated movies or something?

    I feel like I'm missing a large and important component to your through-process, here.
    They were paid for the story boards, animation, dialogue, etc. They get royalties from that, from their work.

    Now their work is being lifted and put into another medium. And they don't get a penny.

    Really, what is so hard to understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    They were paid for the story boards, animation, dialogue, etc. They get royalties from that, from their work.

    Now their work is being lifted and put into another medium. And they don't get a penny.

    Really, what is so hard to understand?
    They're not working on the new product (ie. the remake). Really, what is so hard to understand?

    And work that they were paid for is being "lifted". Disney essentially bought a product from them.

    Do they still get royalties from the original product?

    There was over 265 animators/artists that worked on the original Lion King. Not to mention, if we go this route...the animators/artists probably aren't the only ones that would "deserve" any sort of compensation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    They were paid for the story boards, animation, dialogue, etc. They get royalties from that, from their work.

    Now their work is being lifted and put into another medium. And they don't get a penny.

    Really, what is so hard to understand?
    They were hired to do a job and paid for their work how are they owed money now? I'd understand if they were owed back pay but they're not it wasn't ever theirs it was always Disney's they were hired and paid it should end there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    They're not working on the new product (ie. the remake). Really, what is so hard to understand?

    And work that they were paid for is being "lifted". Disney essentially bought a product from them.

    Do they still get royalties from the original product?

    There was over 265 animators/artists that worked on the original Lion King. Not to mention, if we go this route...the animators/artists probably aren't the only ones that would "deserve" any sort of compensation.
    They're not working on the remake? I mean, it's not as if the remake lifts every scene and plot from the animated movie.

    Oh wait.

    If it was released as an animated movie, they'd get paid. So yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    They're not working on the remake? I mean, it's not as if the remake lifts every scene and plot from the animated movie.

    Oh wait.

    If it was released as an animated movie, they'd get paid. So yeah
    But this isn’t a re-release.

    And, AFAIK, Disney still re-releases the animated originals.

    And as far as plots, they’re not all that original in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    But this isn’t a re-release.

    And, AFAIK, Disney still re-releases the animated originals.

    And as far as plots, they’re not all that original in the first place.
    It's all but a re-release, with the scenes and dialogue simply moved to a different medium. It relies on the work and popularity of the first without giving any compensation to the first.

    And as fa as the plots go, it is original because, again, it takes wholesale from the first. The myth that it was based on was verbal, and probably didn't have jokes written for Robin Williams.

    If another studio released it, they would be sued for copyright infringement and plagiarism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    It's all but a re-release, with the scenes and dialogue simply moved to a different medium. It relies on the work and popularity of the first without giving any compensation to the first.

    And as fa as the plots go, it is original because, again, it takes wholesale from the first. The myth that it was based on was verbal, and probably didn't have jokes written for Robin Williams.

    If another studio released it, they would be sued for copyright infringement and plagiarism.
    That’s. Because. The. Other. Studio. Doesn’t. Own. The. Original.

    You’ve already admitted that Disney can do whatever they want with properties they own. Why do you keep bringing up this wholly hypothetical plagiarism scenario?m

    Furthermore, I’m 100% certain that the animators wouldn’t be able to file a plagiarism suit; Disney would.

    The people that made the product that Disney PAID them to make don’t own the product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    That’s. Because. The. Other. Studio. Doesn’t. Own. The. Original.

    You’ve already admitted that Disney can do whatever they want with properties they own. Why do you keep bringing up this wholly hypothetical plagiarism scenario?m

    Furthermore, I’m 100% certain that the animators wouldn’t be able to file a plagiarism suit; Disney would.

    The people that made the product that Disney PAID them to make don’t own the product.
    They're releasing the same product twice.

    They're paying the original creators once.

    Not that complicated

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    They're releasing the same product twice.

    They're paying the original creators once.

    Not that complicated
    It’s not the same product.

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