Titans and Batwoman Trailers, inflammatory on purpose?

[Bat-Meal]

So, I'm noticing that Pennyworth seems to be really flying under the radar (there is still time). Not finding much discussion of it and such comparatively, the subreddit looks like a ghost town. But it doesn't have a trailer that does anything to "insult" Batman, since he isn't even born yet in the setting.

So Titans did the "f*** Batman" thing, and seemingly had Dick kill ppl. Only I heard recently that one or more of the shots in the trailer wasn't even in the final product (I haven't seen the show so I can't confirm the validity). And the infamous line, was of course, taken out of context. Along with the fight footage, which was also apparently way out of context.

Then the Batwoman trailer has some lines that comes across overly heavy-handed. It also makes it appear that Kate steals Bruce's stuff. The way she talks to Luke in that bit makes me suspect she either inherited or bought Wayne Tower and he didn't get the message, so she busts her way in because she's in a hurry. That's how it seems to me after subsequent views. In full context I suspect the scenes and lines aren't all that bad, just like with Titans.

What both trailers do, is make Dick and Kate appear very insecure about being under the shadow of their mentor/older-cousin, and overcompensate for it. It makes them appear very childish and petulant. After the Titans trailer I expected Dick to be a whiny kid trying to show how grown-up he was not needing Batman anymore. But after reading through and watching plenty of reviews, that is not the case at all.

To be clear, I wasn't offended by either the Titans or Batwoman trailers, but they did annoy me. I suspect it's all to provoke, because it gets more attention and then more ppl end up watching the trailers who otherwise might not have. It gets more ppl watching, and by the time the actual show comes out most ppl have cooled down, and many will watch "just to see how bad it is".

It has to be on purpose, otherwise they just keep choosing ppl who are bad at doing trailers to do the trailers. Thoughts?

[Caivu]

For Batwoman specifically, they clearly aped the first Captain Marvel trailer's "Her(o)" thing, so they probably knew what they were doing; I don't think anyone who pays even a decent amount of attention to pop culture would have missed the frothing rage (and therefore, attention) CM produced from certain people, so a marketing team absolutely would have.

[byrd156]

My only complaint about Batwoman is her saying "I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work". She literally goes in and takes everything that's Bruce's, like what?

[Caivu]

My only complaint about Batwoman is her saying "I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work". She literally goes in and takes everything that's Bruce's, like what?

I think that's intentional, a character flaw she grows out of by the time of Elseworlds.

[Restingvoice]

Well I'm still not interested so it doesn't work on me XD
Should I keep not watching because I don't want to support bad marketing? Like how do these things work?

[Bat-Meal]

Well I'm still not interested so it doesn't work on me XD
Should I keep not watching because I don't want to support bad marketing? Like how do these things work?

I think in that case you probably wouldn't be part of the equation. But if you hated it so much that you kept talking about it, letting other ppl know of it's existence, then in a sense that would be free advertising. It could call attention to it from the ppl who do enjoy it, or find it cringe-worthy but are otherwise interested, and previously didn't know about it. If you really hated it, and had a popular youtube channel or blog, or some other social media following, and you dedicated a video/article to how much you hated it - now even more ppl are aware of the trailer and will likely watch it for context of what you are complaining about (or also hate it so go off to do the same thing). That's even more visibility and free advertising.

Last year I didn't even know of the Titans show's existence until the trailer's backlash - there were articles and vids showing-up in enough places. Then I watched the trailer and thought it looked meh, but was interested enough to keep an eye on reviews.

I don't know, let's imagine if the Titan's trailer didn't have the infamous line, and they didn't make it look like Dick was killing ppl - do you think as many ppl would have been aware of the show? Maybe, but maybe not.

What about with Batwoman? If they cut out the lines that upset ppl, and removed the cheesy pop-song and 'her-o' part? Do you think as many ppl would have seen it by now? In both cases, invested fans probably would have watched and thought that it looks great/okay/bland/bad, and that might have been as far as it went.

Does the free advertising out-weigh the backlash? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

[byrd156]

I think that's intentional, a character flaw she grows out of by the time of Elseworlds.

I just think it's a shit line and it's gonna be another cw show.

[Caivu]

I just think it's a shit line and it's gonna be another cw show.

Even though the evidence suggests that it is, indeed, an intentional flaw?

Think about it. This is a prequel to Elseworlds, and she doesn't talk about Batman or Bruce the same way in that, which suggests she develops out of that.
Her backstory for the show has also been significantly altered in ways that account for her being more immature and selfish at first.

[Celgress]

My only complaint about Batwoman is her saying "I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work". She literally goes in and takes everything that's Bruce's, like what?

LOL, that's a good point. I otherwise found the trailer kind of meh.

[Jackalope89]

Went looking for a story to read on fanfic, and in the crossover section, found 2 stories literally bashing on the trailer and killing Kate in pretty bad ways.

Talk about hurt egos there.

[Celgress]

Went looking for a story to read on fanfic, and in the crossover section, found 2 stories literally bashing on the trailer and killing Kate in pretty bad ways...

LMAO, got to love the overreactions of today's "fans".

[Hulkout42]

My only complaint about Batwoman is her saying "I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work". She literally goes in and takes everything that's Bruce's, like what?

It was that and the line "when it fits a woman" that pretty much makes me thinks this show is dead even before it began.
I mean i can forgive "Fuck Batman" and for the most part the Titans show has grown on me though not on the same level as Doom Patrol...but as for Batwoman? Yeah i'm just going to say fuck that show.