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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Girl Daken View Post
    It was more of a way to keep telling stories with Jean, who was already dead. Hope became a White Hot Phoenix and was fine. It's an underdeveloped concept with a cool as heck costume.
    You can't keep telling stories with Jean if she is dead. I'm here to read about Jean th ehuman, not some distant super god.
    That was a way to gaslight people because Jean was dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    You can't keep telling stories with Jean if she is dead. I'm here to read about Jean th ehuman, not some distant super god.
    That was a way to gaslight people because Jean was dead
    I never said it had to be Jean and Hope didnt die when she was WHPOTC

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    You can't keep telling stories with Jean if she is dead. I'm here to read about Jean th ehuman, not some distant super god.
    That was a way to gaslight people because Jean was dead
    Are you saying that if she ever does become White Hot Phoenix editorial is going to killer off again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loke13 View Post
    Are you saying that if she ever does become White Hot Phoenix editorial is going to killer off again?
    why not? they already killed her one time to be it

    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Girl Daken View Post
    I never said it had to be Jean and Hope didnt die when she was WHPOTC
    She didnt fullfilled it
    Last edited by spirit2011; 05-19-2019 at 07:12 PM.

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    I say if the Phoenix comes back, let the second most well known host (Rachel) have it......she’s the one who didn’t lose herself to its power (even curb stomping Mastermind when he tried attempt #3 at revenge/ attempt #2 at controlling the Phoenix......), she even beat Galactus......also, they can keep her around......

    Jean just gave up the thing when it brought her back, so it’s logical that her “daughter “ gets it......

    Either that or, to be interesting, maybe Quentin Quire, one of the Stepford Cukoos (forgot about them earlier) or Psylocke (she’s a telepath, and came back once already, thanks to her brother......it would be a new host and not a retread......)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Girl Daken View Post
    I never said it had to be Jean and Hope didnt die when she was WHPOTC
    Hope didn't become WPotC. She became a White Phoenix, but the WPotC is a higher variation on it. It means being the complete personification of the Phoenix. Only Jean has become that, and it turned her entirely into energy.
    "It is the truest mark of heroism: to give your life aware that those you save will never know."

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    God I hope so: Phoenix Resurrection (or whatever it was called) was a colossal disappointment. I hope Hickman does for Jean Grey and the Phoenix what he did for Franklin Richards.

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    Bendis probably just wanted to put Hope into the White Phoenix costume for superficial reasons. I doubt he thought whether it really made her White Phoenix of the Crown or not, or what being WPOTC even really means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackphoenix View Post
    God I hope so: Phoenix Resurrection (or whatever it was called) was a colossal disappointment. I hope Hickman does for Jean Grey and the Phoenix what he did for Franklin Richards.
    who knows? but I think Phoenix comes too much as expense of Jean. And I don't think Hickman really cares about the character to do a good story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    Bendis probably just wanted to put Hope into the White Phoenix costume for superficial reasons. I doubt he thought whether it really made her White Phoenix of the Crown or not, or what being WPOTC even really means.
    Exactly. He didn't seem to get it.

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    No! It is time for something new.
    There are many aspects in the X-Universe for Hickman to explore besides the Phoenixmania.

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    Phoenix isnt a top priority from all the signs of what he's leading to. Jean will have a big moment with Nate Grey though by the end of Age Of X Man.

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