Last edited by spirit2011; 05-20-2019 at 04:02 PM.
I haven't read an X-Men ongoing as it was coming out since...ever. This clean start with a writer I greatly like is definitely exciting, especially as it is a passion project for him and the comparisons to the other major milestones are definitely encouraging.
Jean's my favorite X-Man, and Morrison is my favorite writer for her, so if Hickman channels Morrison I'm fine with it. Him preferring Emma, if he did, didn't erase the fact that she was pretty much the main heroic figure throughout the run. I don't care that he killed her (and didn't editorial force him to because she was too powerful?) because dying and returning is what Phoenixes do. It's editorial's fault for taking so long to bring her back. She's also practically everywhere in these promos, so I'm sure she will have plenty to do.
Also, what is a "stan" and how is different from just...a fan?
I think Morrison wrote her ok, but wrote things to make her a big loser. that outweight any good writing he made.
Editorial didn't forced him to do anything, he wanted to kill her because he wanted to right Claremont dark phoenix. For Morrison Jean should never ever went back to life.
Editorial was just making his will true. Morrison wasn't any good for Jean
Let the age of Aunty Emma begin.
Is all going to be like that MA movie xD
For such a "Big Loser," she has some of the biggest moments in the run such as coordinating the plan to defeat Cassandra, shattering Charles's mind and re-assembling it, being the face of the school and making the best of Cassandra's "outing" of them to effectively start integrating with the rest of society, resurrecting Emma and wiping out Sublime, the Big Bad.
He didn't write her as a saint (which is good because her being viewed as such can be detrimental for her), but he was good for Jean. I find plenty to enjoy of her herself in the run independent of the stuff going on with Scott and Emma, which is just the usual shipping BS that fans fight over.
Can you back up his wanting to kill her with a source? I've heard he was getting more and more fed up with editorial as the run neared its end and he left early, so it wouldn't surprise me if her death as a consequence of that and if he even intended it to be permanent.
Last edited by SiegePerilous02; 05-20-2019 at 05:14 PM.
You are right she had some great moments. But for me it was overshawed by all the humiliant crap with Emma and Scott. it grew up the argument that Jean isn't good enough for Cyclops and she deserves to be dead. For all the characters on marvel universe, she had to be humiliated by these two.
I don't think i know someone who read Morrison run and got out of it as Jean fan.
I can't find it anymore, and I won't lose another hour trying to find it again. Editorial was pretty fine with Morrison killing jean and never getting her BACK. IT is damn obvious
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TBF, so were most the books from Morrison to AvX, the same few assortment of characters used across books, with Cyke taking the lead...with Red it was always a Jean book. The first cover was literally just her, that said, you can find MULTIPLE instances throughout that short run of other characters thinking for themselves. But more importantly actually influencing the plot by having a moment all to themselves. Something that has been lost in a lot of books, hell Gold was running around the same time and Kitty consistently was the leader, strategist, mentor, instructor etc. to a team of senior longstanding X-men.
Posters really over-inflated Red as if Jean was the only character receiving attention which was not the case, it was her team and vision however unlike many of those featured in Red she was NOT pulling double duty in another title, and had only recently returned after like 14 years so in her case it at least made sense.