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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Whedon, Fraction, Pak



    No, he said on twitter his favorite is Emma Frost. if he said Jean grey he meant the teenage, because the adult he wrote her like shit.
    Having Emma taking jabs (unjustified) at Jean was painful and revolting
    Pak just sucks in general -least for X-books. Don't take that personally. He ruined everyone in Weapon X. lol And I hope to high Heaven that BC rumor about him writing any of my favorites is false. But i'll know in Jul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Whedon, Fraction, Pak



    No, he said on twitter his favorite is Emma Frost. if he said Jean grey he meant the teenage, because the adult he wrote her like shit.
    Having Emma taking jabs (unjustified) at Jean was painful and revolting
    Got any source for Whedon, Fraction, or Pak having Emma as their favorite characters?

    I doubt it. You just literally hate anyone who writes Scott or Emma in any kind of positive light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    Got any source for Whedon, Fraction, or Pak having Emma as their favorite characters?

    I doubt it. You just literally hate anyone who writes Scott or Emma in any kind of positive light.
    Pak stole the phoenix for Emma, and he shilled for her a lot on his writing.
    Fraction called Jean the steak and Emma a lobster, so why would ever Jean come back? he is a know Jean hater
    Whedon every argument from Jean haters come from his run.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    Pak just sucks in general -least for X-books. Don't take that personally. He ruined everyone in Weapon X. lol And I hope to high Heaven that BC rumor about him writing any of my favorites is false. But i'll know in Jul.
    He is awful. His phoenix stories suck so much, they never let him complete his phoenix trilogy. Everything i read from him is lackluster
    yeah keep him away from our faves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    Pak just sucks in general
    Pak is great in general, Hulkverines had a better Logan than either Rosenberg or Soule can do

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    Quote Originally Posted by comeatmebro View Post
    Pak is great in general, Hulkverines had a better Logan than either Rosenberg or Soule can do
    Pak is good with Hulk

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    Quote Originally Posted by comeatmebro View Post
    Pak is great in general, Hulkverines had a better Logan than either Rosenberg or Soule can do
    I can't find anyone Rosenberg has written well, at least recently. Current Uncanny is a dumpster fire, Gold was worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Whedon, Fraction, Pak
    Lmao. This is what Im talking about. X-Men needs more dIvErSiTy! *Greg Pak exists* No, not him. He doesnt like [insert character here]!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurisu View Post
    Lmao. This is what I’m talking about. “X-Men needs more dIvErSiTy!” *Greg Pak exists* “No, not him. He doesn’t like [insert character here]!”
    H eisn't even a good writer of -books. there is vita ayala an dmany others writers of color

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    Quote Originally Posted by comeatmebro View Post
    Pak is great in general, Hulkverines had a better Logan than either Rosenberg or Soule can do
    Given his treatment & characterization of of Creed, Domino, Deathstrike, Deadpool, and Monet. I'm going with he sucks. Rosenberg sucks too from what I am seeing. I am shuddering at what we're gonna see with Creed in WoR tomorrow. And Soule is also on my list of bad writers. lol They all had their turn ruining one of my favorites.

    Supposedly Pak is a better writer than Weapon X showed, but given he poo-pooed 3 of my favorites in one run, he lost all points with me. So I wouldn't be surprised to hear anyone complain about his treatment with some X-characters. If he did do a bad job with Jean, I could believe it without problem. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    Given his treatment & characterization of of Creed, Domino, Deathstrike, Deadpool, and Monet. I'm going with he sucks. Rosenberg sucks too from what I am seeing. I am shuddering at what we're gonna see with Creed in WoR tomorrow. And Soule is also on my list of bad writers. lol They all had their turn ruining one of my favorites.

    Supposedly he's a better writer than Weapon X showed, but given he poo-pooed 3 of my favorites in that run, he lost all points with me. So I wouldn't be surprised to hear anyone complain about his treatment with some X-characters. If he did do a bad job with Jean, I could believe it without problem. lol
    He barely wrote Jean, he just completely trahsed Phoenix

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    Weapon X was super fun, better than most recent X-Men books

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    He barely wrote Jean, he just completely trahsed Phoenix
    I could see that. Every time I remember what he did to Creed, Domino, Monet, and Deadpool in Weapon X I start seething. Especially with them coming off good writers like Bunn and Duggan. Nice grittier stories & the characters have the right voice & depth. Then to turn around & get Pak's half-assed mess, and failed attempt at "comedy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    I could see that. Every time I remember what he did to Creed, Domino, Monet, and Deadpool in Weapon X I start seething. Especially with them coming off good writers like Bunn and Duggan. Nice grittier stories & the characters have the right voice & depth. Then to turn around & get Pak's half-assed mess, and failed attempt at "comedy."
    the last book on his terrible phoenix trilogy was going to be about Emma taking vengeance on Phoenix. Someone saw it and probably said "dude just stop doing, your idea sucks"

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    the last book on his terrible phoenix trilogy was going to be about Emma taking vengeance on Phoenix. Someone saw it and probably said "dude just stop doing, your idea sucks"
    Because it wrote Emma in a positive light? Just stop. We get it. Any writer that writes Emma well is a talentless hack, and any writer than likes Jean is a God that must be worshiped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comeatmebro View Post
    Weapon X was super fun, better than most recent X-Men books
    The TAH crossover was bloated, but it was a blast. Especially compared to Blue and Gold. X-Treme was decent too.

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