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    Can't believe this Isn't already posted? What's with this rumour that King is being removed from Batman after issue #85!? Is there any truth in it. If so, what are you my fellow devotees feelings on the matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franny6422 View Post
    Can't believe this Isn't already posted? What's with this rumour that King is being removed from Batman after issue #85!? Is there any truth in it. If so, what are you my fellow devotees feelings on the matter?
    This is true. King will have more projects for DC coming up

    https://uk.ign.com/articles/2019/05/...t-series-early

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    It's been posted in the Batman forums.

    My opinion is that there's likely more to the situation than we know.
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    I love Tom King but I haven’t enjoyed his Batman run. I think he would be better suited to different characters. Give him characters where he won’t be constrained by continuity.

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    Batman was always an ill-suit for him. Hell, any mainstream superhero book is an ill-suit for him so I hope they don't make him write stuff like Superman, Justice League or whatever else. Tom King is not like Grant Morrison who is flexible enough to implement his esoteric ideas in more conventional titles, not to mention that Morrison's ideas are usually more fitting for the titles he works on (despite that Morrison is also well-known for changing characterization for the sake of his themes but not to the extend of King) and if we're completely honest, Morrison is simply a much better writer despite that both use a similar "out there" direction.

    Really, the best thing that DC can do is give King obscure characters where portrayals are not that cemented so he can do whatever the hell he has in mind and pray that actually turns out good.

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    I think he was turning too much into a one pony trick kind of writer and for a ex CIA agent his extended arcs do come off as not particularly well informed about technique or planning. I enjoyed his mister miracle and vision and some issues of Batman but ultimately his run was never more than a extended knightfall arc. the smaller jokes and riddles and khightmares arcs were particularly a chore to get through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Really, the best thing that DC can do is give King obscure characters where portrayals are not that cemented so he can do whatever the hell he has in mind and pray that actually turns out good.
    Give him obscure or minor characters in their own little secluded corner and I think King is probably in his best environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franny6422 View Post
    Can't believe this Isn't already posted? What's with this rumour that King is being removed from Batman after issue #85!?
    My lord, do you know how many threads / how many posts there are about this somewhere else on these boards?

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    I actually liked this run because I thought he was doing something different, but the sales spoke for themselves. Seems like both the fandom and the company want Batman to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. Cool. Enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    I actually liked this run because I thought he was doing something different, but the sales spoke for themselves. Seems like both the fandom and the company want to keep seeing Batman do the same thing over and over again. Cool. Enjoy.
    Well at least, once King will depart, Batman will be doing something. It'll already be an improvement.

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    With the latest information coming out regarding how editorial felt about the run and what he was doing, everything DC didn't do to make a bigger deal out of Bruce and Selina's engagement makes all the more sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    I actually liked this run because I thought he was doing something different, but the sales spoke for themselves. Seems like both the fandom and the company want Batman to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. Cool. Enjoy.
    Eh. I like Tom King, and I was a fan of his batman series, but since the Knightmares arc I'm totally lost. The problem is not that he is doing something different (my favorite arc of Batman is the Morrison one), the problem is that in the last issues, there is a real problem of pacing. It's not that I don't like this run because it's different, it's just that it's becoming boring...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    I actually liked this run because I thought he was doing something different, but the sales spoke for themselves. Seems like both the fandom and the company want Batman to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. Cool. Enjoy.
    But the sales were bad. So what if only 88K got ORDERED-that is few books sitting in bins.

    I mean the trades are all top 500 sellers with the last 4 among the top 200 on Amazon and top 250 for Kindle & comixology. It looks like folks outside of the comic book store are enjoying those books. Which seems to be the case with a growing number of books as of late.

    It can't be about sales overall-he's doing better than the guys doing Superman & Green Lantern & Flash.

    Now if you want to call him to the carpet for the mess known as Wally West & Duke Thomas-I could understand as he did no justice to either one.

    This smells like someone with a bigger name is hiding in the background and DC wants them on the book.

    If that is the case who is it? I don't think it's someone already in the comic field.

    Or it's someone who will represent the first (blank) to be a main writer for Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    I actually liked this run because I thought he was doing something different, but the sales spoke for themselves. Seems like both the fandom and the company want Batman to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. Cool. Enjoy.
    Cosigned. King's run was probably the best Batman run i read in a while. Too bad, they're going to play it safe just to coddle fans. If King is off Batman, then i'm definitely done.
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    It's not about sales. They have no one lined up. They're going to do filler issues from 85-100 until someone big can come in and take over. What do they think that's going to do to their sales?

    Clearly it's a behind the scenes clash with King and the higher ups. Or someone in the higher ups office. To have him go all the way to 85 and then not finish his planned 100 issue run, when they've got nothing to replace it with makes NO sense. And just days after he did all these interviews touting the rest of his run and how excited he was about the last 15 issues in particular, lol.

    Something weird and bizarre happened behind the scenes very quickly over the weekend. And still DC hasn't said anything officially about all this.

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