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    Hello,
    dont know how to explain, but if Young Justice comes to Earth, Doomsday Clock ends etc. there will sureley be a lot of explaining needed.

    What do you think will be the consequences?

    I mean we saw what happened with Wally...

    Now:

    there could be a problem with Superman if Conner comes back and Superman finds out that Martha and Jonathan didnt die so early...
    Problem with Barry Allen, because he is to a certain degree responsable for all this
    Roy (if he comes back),Ollie,Black Canary,Starfire,Nightwing and Donna will be upset if they remember Lian, who wasnt born in NEW52 and Rebirth
    etc, etc,

    What do you see in the future, because connecting NEW52/Rebirth with Pre-Flashpoint will create trouble and create anger,desperation etc. among the Heroes...

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    I feel like DC is going to ignore all of the potential ramifications for the missing time years returning and continue with business as usual. Or Doomsday Clock ends with a partial reboot that fixes all of the inconsistencies and regions certain events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    I feel like DC is going to ignore all of the potential ramifications for the missing time years returning and continue with business as usual. Or Doomsday Clock ends with a partial reboot that fixes all of the inconsistencies and regions certain events.
    I wouldnt like that...
    Because they were blaming Young Justice (in the old Run) and others for little mistakes and I would hate if Barry who is responsible for so much trouble goes away so easily..

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    The whole failed recon needs to be thrown away and move things back to pre-Flashpoint continuity with some minor changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphaxman View Post
    The whole failed recon needs to be thrown away and move things back to pre-Flashpoint continuity with some minor changes.
    Things like Super Sons, Rebirth Red Hood, Jessica Cruz and Simon Baz, and those kinds of things I take it?

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    First, let's stop this silly idea of demonizing Barry Allen for these perceived continuity problems. First and foremost, he's a fictional character who has no say over what the writers and editors have him do. Second, even setting aside reality and looking at the situation from a purely in-universe perspective, all Barry is "guilty" of is trying to correct what Eobard Thawne, a psychopath, perverted. Barry was about to succeed at doing that when outside forces such as Dr. Manhattan and Pandora intervened with agendas of their own. There are literally four or five layers of culpable parties, both real and imaginary, that you should be looking at instead of Barry Allen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buried Alien View Post
    There are literally four or five layers of culpable parties, both real and imaginary, that you should be looking at instead of Barry Allen.
    The thing is readers are unfortunately going to hold Barry accountable as long as writers continue to place the blame squarely on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buried Alien View Post
    First, let's stop this silly idea of demonizing Barry Allen for these perceived continuity problems. First and foremost, he's a fictional character who has no say over what the writers and editors have him do. Second, even setting aside reality and looking at the situation from a purely in-universe perspective, all Barry is "guilty" of is trying to correct what Eobard Thawne, a psychopath, perverted. Barry was about to succeed at doing that when outside forces such as Dr. Manhattan and Pandora intervened with agendas of their own. There are literally four or five layers of culpable parties, both real and imaginary, that you should be looking at instead of Barry Allen.

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    The problem with this is that from an in-continuity perspective, Barry was the metaphorical bullet the shattered the timeline. Dr. Manhattan and Pandora screwed it up by universe mergin and time altering but it's been stated many times that Barrys initial time travel resulted in some changes, no matter how minor they may sometimes seem. (Wally was not Barry's fault, jut to clarify. The Titans mess is 50/50, Superman was Mxyzptlk.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gero4568 View Post
    The problem with this is that from an in-continuity perspective, Barry was the metaphorical bullet the shattered the timeline. Dr. Manhattan and Pandora screwed it up by universe mergin and time altering but it's been stated many times that Barrys initial time travel resulted in some changes, no matter how minor they may sometimes seem. (Wally was not Barry's fault, jut to clarify. The Titans mess is 50/50, Superman was Mxyzptlk.)
    So they are implying that before Crisis it was Barry who kept causing those little retcons on Earth 1 (Donna Troy existing, Mopee, Superman and Superboy both meeting JFK as President, …). Which in turn could be added to his breaching the Earth-1/Earth-2 barrier as proof Barry caused the original Crisis as well.

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