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    Default AVENGERS 19. Spoilers..I guess?

    I have never seen such great art in the service of a story that I care nothing about. Ed McGuinness absolutely kills it this issue. It's like a chef (Artist Ed McGuinness) making a gourmet meal but then it's served on a garbage can lid (War Of The Realms) such a waste.

    Even the parts that have nothing to do with WOTR disappoints.

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    Gorilla Man meets with Ursa Major in a zoo so they will not rose suspicion. Except no zoo is going to put a Gorilla and a bear in the same enclosure. The zoo has visitors, who have phones and they are going to want to take pictures and video of the gorilla and bear that are sitting in the same enclosure. Did I mention that the gorilla is wearing clothes and both the bear and gorilla are drinking? Then Aaron has KA-ZAR show up and have Ursa and Gorilla Man comment on how much attention they are drawing.
    end of spoilers

    It's the classic "You can't call me on my bad idea If I bring it up first" trick. Except it makes him look worse. He knows the whole meeting in the zoo scene was nonsense. He just didn't care because he wanted to have a scene set in a zoo that badly and the editor didn't see fit to stop him. There is also Thor slam but this is Aaron and it wouldn't be an Aaron title if that didn't happen.
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    I liked this story for the most part, but I agree that the zoo meeting was total nonsense.
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    How is Doctor Nemesis in this if he "died" in Uncanny X-Men fighting Nate Grey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipHopAvenger View Post
    How is Doctor Nemesis in this if he "died" in Uncanny X-Men fighting Nate Grey?
    Xbook canon doesn't count until Hickman takes over

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    The zoo plan is stupid, it is pointed out that it's stupid, but it's actually not too stupid because they are in the Marvel Universe, in Wundagore, where the New Men live (or lived, I forget), so talking animals isn't that significant or special.


    Quote Originally Posted by HipHopAvenger View Post
    How is Doctor Nemesis in this if he "died" in Uncanny X-Men fighting Nate Grey?
    He ran away like a bat out of hell when he realized another X-Men AU was coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg View Post
    He ran away like a bat out of hell when he realized another X-Men AU was coming.
    We all wish that we could do the same but we're stuck until July whether we like it or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    I have never seen such great art in the service of a story that I care nothing about. Ed McGuinness absolutely kills it this issue. It's like a chef (Artist Ed McGuinness) making a gourmet meal but then it's served on a garbage can lid (War Of The Realms) such a waste.

    Even the parts that have nothing to do with WOTR disappoints.

    spoilers:
    Gorilla Man meets with Ursa Major in a zoo so they will not rose suspicion. Except no zoo is going to put a Gorilla and a bear in the same enclosure. The zoo has visitors, who have phones and they are going to want to take pictures and video of the gorilla and bear that are sitting in the same enclosure. Did I mention that the gorilla is wearing clothes and both the bear and gorilla are drinking? Then Aaron has KA-ZAR show up and have Ursa and Gorilla Man comment on how much attention they are drawing.
    end of spoilers

    It's the classic "You can't call me on my bad idea If I bring it up first" trick. Except it makes him look worse. He knows the whole meeting in the zoo scene was nonsense. He just didn't care because he wanted to have a scene set in a zoo that badly and the editor didn't see fit to stop him. There is also Thor slam but this is Aaron and it wouldn't be an Aaron title if that didn't happen.
    Like you said, ignore the story. Stay for the art.

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    I liked this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    I liked this issue.
    I really respect the balls to do an event tie-in for one of Marvel's flagship titles entirely based around a character that can only be appreciated if you read a bunch of cult mini-series from the 2000's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg View Post
    I really respect the balls to do an event tie-in for one of Marvel's flagship titles entirely based around a character that can only be appreciated if you read a bunch of cult mini-series from the 2000's.
    Well I appreciated the hell out of it and I will never bother to read those stories.

    On all levels this was a stunning story. My only quibble is the strange decision to have untimely tie-ins. This belonged before the previous issue of WotR not after. However this isn’t really a WotR story, it is part of the ongoing Avengers narrative, and as such it is pure genius.

    The effectively detached commentary on the war, and the subtle hints in the exchange with T’Challa that he may be playing both sides against the middle sets up a potentially fascinating story.

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    Also, I want to add that if this was Ponsor's last Marvel issue it was a heck of a way to go out. If not, I'll enjoy the work while it last.
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

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