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    Quote Originally Posted by BitVyper View Post
    That'd be the case with Sauron, I think, but Melkor doesn't really have any ideology outside of self-aggrandizement. I think it'd be more important to him to make everything be ABOUT him, which he could totally do.

    That said, if he's forced to actually compete in the setting itself... I think he's probably still a step below what's-her-face, the last boss of Naruto-evil moon goddess lady, in terms of immediate offensive powers, and she might have him beat for esoterica too. So I don't know what's happening in Naruto NOW, but if he showed up in the original series, things might have eventually gone bad for him. Again, only if he actually has to be on the planet as he did with Middle Earth though.
    Well it seems like Melkor basically wanted to invent rock and roll. He created discordant music. Which God just mixed in with his own harmonious music to create greater beauty. In other words, Melkor just created the first section of Night On Bald Mountain and wanted that to be the whole song, but God just shrugged and made it the first section of a song that was all about the victory of goodness over adversity.

    Sauron, on the other hand, was a far more nearly human type of dictator, wanting perfect order, basically wanting to turn the world into a clock.

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    I prefer Rock and Rule, but yeah, essentially. ^_^

    Sauron was a far more...um, how to put this...respectable? kind of villain. That the wrong word, but maybe you get the idea. You know, there's a kind of villain that has a defined purpose that makes vague sense if one squints at it hard enough (wanting order is not, in and of itself, a bad thing)? And a goal, and a plan, and courage (Sauron, in the beginning, certainly had courage...it wasn't until he failed a few times and lost two bodies that he started getting a little 'cautious'), etc, etc. Not to go so far as to say Sauron had a sense of honour -- he really didn't -- but.

    Melkor, on the other hand, was a 'little boy pulling wings off flies because he can' kind of bullying, self-aggrandizing, greedy, cowardly and foul-minded Dark Lord. He might have been more powerful, but boy oh boy was he ever a (destructive and dangerous) weenie.
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    Still seems like a lot of misery just so God could create the Devil Went Down to Georgia.

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    All of the misery in the First Age sadly boils down to 'Sometimes, Some People Are Just Dicks'. Melkor, Fëanor, Fëanor's sons, (yes, even those of Fëanor's sons who did decent things once in a while still got themselves up to their necks in their father's murderous business), and others, the list goes on and on. And at times even the good guys (Thingol springs to mind) were guilty of serious dick moves that had horrific consequences.
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