Rotten Tomatoes: User reviews now verifying that users saw the film

[Bat-Meal]

Rotten Tomatoes is fighting back against review bombing for films:

https://screencrush.com/rotten-tomat...udience-score/

Un-verified users can still review, but there will be 2 types of audience score, one for verified and one for all audience. Verified shows as default.

Interesting comment in this last article about rage likely being redirected to TV Series, as films find some level of protection:
https://www.cracked.com/article_2641...w-bombing.html

[AJBopp]

RT would do themselves a huge favor by making Top Critics the default score as well, and renaming the categories to something like Professional Reviews and Amateur Reviews.

[WebLurker]

It's a good second step after they put a cap on pre-movie ratings; while we all have freedom of opinion, someone venturing an opinion on a movie or other piece of art should have at least seen it first. It's won't be a perfect way to stop trolls (they could see the movie, verify it, and then still review bomb it anyways), but it will at least cut down on that and maximize information based on informed opinions.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

GOOD. IMDB is trash for just this exact reason.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

RT would do themselves a huge favor by making Top Critics the default score as well, and renaming the categories to something like Professional Reviews and Amateur Reviews.

If you seperate it by Professional and Amatuer sure. But then I'd think you almost have to limit it to "this person is published in a mainstream publication and these people aren't". Also a lot of the none Top Critics are still professional reviewers. It's not like it's all bloggers and youtube reviewers.

[AJBopp]

If you seperate it by Professional and Amatuer sure. But then I'd think you almost have to limit it to "this person is published in a mainstream publication and these people aren't". Also a lot of the none Top Critics are still professional reviewers. It's not like it's all bloggers and youtube reviewers.

All you really need to do is have standards, just like professional media outlets have standards when hiring someone for the position of film reviewer.

[Vakanai]

The hell is a review bomb? As someone who never bothers reading reviews for movies outside forums like this I'm curious.

[GozertheGozarian]

The hell is a review bomb? As someone who never bothers reading reviews for movies outside forums like this I'm curious.

People mass reviewing a movie without watching to alter the rating.

[jetengine]

People mass reviewing a movie without watching to alter the rating.

Usually for political reasons.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Usually for political reasons.

Or just for fanboy wank reasons really. IMDB has had this problem for over a decade and it's usually over stupid fanboy wars

[Bat-Meal]

It's won't be a perfect way to stop trolls (they could see the movie, verify it, and then still review bomb it anyways), but it will at least cut down on that and maximize information based on informed opinions.

Yeah, but they'd have to purchase a ticket, or get a ticket off someone who purchased a ticket - either way a purchase is involved. I'm sure the film studios would be very distressed to find out trolls are buying tickets to their films en mass to review bomb them.

The hell is a review bomb? As someone who never bothers reading reviews for movies outside forums like this I'm curious.

Let's say a bigot hears about a film that goes against their conservative views. Rather than just not watch that film, and let other people enjoy it, they decide to give it a low score and spread nasty rumors about it.

This reportedly happened with:
Ghostbusters (the remake)
Wonderwoman
The Last Jedi
Black Panther
A Wrinkle In Time
Captain Marvel

This happens with television series as well, a quick glimpse at Supergirl, Star Trek Discovery, or Doctor Who shows a huge disparity between critics and audience scores for example. It' hard to tell how much of that would be genuine and how much would be review bombing for a female protagonist being in place of a male one (Supergirl instead of Superman, Star Trek usually having male and/or white captains, and the Doctor's most recent regeneration being female).

[Vakanai]

Wow, people who review bomb are pretty shitty scum.

[Jokerz79]

Yeah, but they'd have to purchase a ticket, or get a ticket off someone who purchased a ticket - either way a purchase is involved. I'm sure the film studios would be very distressed to find out trolls are buying tickets to their films en mass to review bomb them.



Let's say a bigot hears about a film that goes against their conservative views. Rather than just not watch that film, and let other people enjoy it, they decide to give it a low score and spread nasty rumors about it.

This reportedly happened with:
Ghostbusters (the remake)
Wonderwoman
The Last Jedi
Black Panther
A Wrinkle In Time
Captain Marvel

This happens with television series as well, a quick glimpse at Supergirl, Star Trek Discovery, or Doctor Who shows a huge disparity between critics and audience scores for example. It' hard to tell how much of that would be genuine and how much would be review bombing for a female protagonist being in place of a male one (Supergirl instead of Superman, Star Trek usually having male and/or white captains, and the Doctor's most recent regeneration being female).

Wonder Woman actually has a high audience score and didn't get review bombed the controversy with conservative types were the all female screenings and Wrinkle in Time also didn't do well with critics and even Black Panther had a decent audience score. While Ghostbusters was the start of this "culture war" type stuff it also wasn't a good film which did so poorly Sony is going back to the 1984 Ghostbusters franchise forward.

The first film to really get review bombed was TLJ which was led by a circle of YouTubers who only have about 100,000 viewers on average and that's the high end and make up a very small percentage of the Audience. But most people don't go and give RT reviews so if they can get all their viewers to it give a bad review it gives a false perceptive of the audience reception to a film. Going forward they've done it to Captain Marvel, Disco, Dr. Who, and Solo.

The problem is things like Solo which was a mess since production wasn't that good and gave them a false sense of importance. Same for Disco and Dr. Who look at social media or Youtube there are plenty of channels that have covered who and done reactions for years and many were unhappy with series 11 difference is they are looking forward to series 12 and hoping it will give Jodie a chance to shine because she has the makings of a good if not great Doctor just was failed by writing. Disco's constant canon violations the worst in Trek history divided the fan base I mean many old school fans gravitated to Orville which had a diverse cast and characters. But seeing the discourse again gave these people a false sense of importance thinking everyone agreed with them without realizing the dislike were for very different reasons.

Captain Marvel was a rude awakening for them they all predicated this would be the MCU's first flop and it made over a Billion Dollars even if you believe their conspiracy theories that Disney bought tickets and the break even point was 750 million dollars CM still made a few hundred million in profit. This made them realize the general public don't agree with them like a broken clock they were occasionally right about a something being bad but that doesn't mean people agree with them on why.

I think this a good move it's not perfect but will at least a good step in stopping false reviews.

[Bat-Meal]

Wonder Woman actually has a high audience score and didn't get review bombed the controversy with conservative types were the all female screenings and Wrinkle in Time also didn't do well with critics and even Black Panther had a decent audience score. While Ghostbusters was the start of this "culture war" type stuff it also wasn't a good film which did so poorly Sony is going back to the 1984 Ghostbusters franchise forward.

Black Panther was specifically targeted.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/2/169...bing-alt-right

[Jokerz79]

Black Panther was specifically targeted.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/2/169...bing-alt-right

There was a threat made to attack Disney films which Black Panther was the newest one at the time coming out. But given most Disney films weren't targeted and Black Panther's critic and audience score is only 18% apart it looks like that was an empty threat by someone wanting some attention.