So Veidt knew Dr Manhattan was on Earth?
So Veidt knew Dr Manhattan was on Earth?
Notice that one the big Blue billboards had "murderer" graffiti, and of course there was the central incident of Angela's memory.
Of course the 51st state would celebrate the figure who made that happen. And of course not everyone would see the Americans as liberators..
Veidt, smartest man on Earth, felt it worth a try to re-Inteinsic him. And the 7K are experimenting with teleportation, too.
Maybe somebody's logic is that if you split him up and separate the pieces, he can't reconfigure himself?
More relevantly, Keene wants to become Manhattan. So... shades of The Fly, or even using Nostalgia to overwrite him somehow..?
Given that the 7K channel Rorschach, maybe they're also channeling his grit and belief that right will win.
Who has Veidt? Who is Trieu's father? What is the clock for?
(7K/Veidt/bring her father to earth?)
Was the closing music for Episode 7 some version of Bowie's "Life on Mars," or did I imagine that..?
“And I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, 'If this isn't nice, I don't know what is.” ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
I have really mixed feelings about this episode. I can’t shake the idea that it is being watered down a little for its audience. This feels true for the whole series to some extent. Every theme has a lantern hung on it. Every mystery is not only being revealed but brought out in the dialogue.
The series has been on a journey, not just of explaining itself, but demystifying itself. It is as if Lindelof has taken criticisms of his work being opaque to heart, and that has resulted in a lesser product. This episode had far too many tidy bows. The most clumsy being the overly convenient recordings on Laurie’s dictaphone. Sometimes I wonder if this is something we can actually lay at the show runner’s feet or if it is the episode writer taking necessary shortcuts to hit the beats they have to.
The reveals themselves were fun. Especially the final reveal which is one of those rewarding reveals that was right there in front of our eyes and double underlined in dialogue hints. I am certainly not going to complain about a Lost style flashback episode that gives us insight into a character.
So, that results in a bit of a mixed bag. I always remember that Lost used to have problems in the lead-up to final episodes. Sometimes, while enjoying the experience, an element of what made the show what it was seemed to be missing, as the plot was pushed along towards a crescendo it was more easy to spot the contrivances and expository dialogue became more prevalent. On the other hand, I am usually the first to point out that exposition is essential and that all story is contrivance. I hope this all bodes well for the final two episodes. That all of this revelation will push us towards a satisfactory conclusion.
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“And I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, 'If this isn't nice, I don't know what is.” ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
I don't see that to an extreme degree, and it seems reasonable where I do see it - very, very little seems "forced" or unlikely. If people are lampshading or discussing pertinent things, it's because that's (relatively) realistic.
First, I think that the clarity (where there's clarity) is reasonable - and as it ties into the criticisms/comments about the politics and racial focus, I also sense anger and frustration. If it's more heavy-handed than some might like, then - like Moore and Gibbons! - it's Good heavy-handed: these fictional problems and biases and horrors are Very Bad. We know this. So why have we let reality stay as bad?
Second, we're at 7 of 9(!), so if things are moving closer to resolution that shouldn't be surprising.
Third, there's always tension in collaborative mediums - and it should be less of a blame/claim question, and more of an example of the challenges faced when disparate people try to create a cohesive whole. There will be bumps or oddities.
Fourth, the dictaphone is obviously a side-effect of TV-time and contrived convenience: everyone can squiggle to the exact soundbite, have eight-word phonecalls that convey 10m of information and switch on a TV whenever breaking news is just about to break. It's a reasonable contrivance. But, for in-world explanation, we could assume reel-to-reel re-recording and condensing of hours of ramble into punchy revisitable soundbites... or, given that Nostalgia appears to replay set memories, it's not entirely improbable that Angela would give voice to only a few hyper-relevant statements while experiencing them, which would result in a tailored recording for Blake to then hear.
Me, too. After this phenomenal 3/4 show, I certainly hope the ending winds up as strong.
Wasn't that location more of a two-step extrapolation from Metropolis being East Coast, and Smallville probably being near it..?
Crisis essentially relocated Smallville to Kansas, but it'd always been hazy. I remember reading Iowa, Maryland and the general mid-west long before the 80s.
No exaggeration, when I watched this latest episode and started to realize what the final twist actually was, I literally went, "What?! You can't be serious!" That's how caught off guard I was by the surprise reveal.
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You seemed to take an awful lot of effort to say you don’t see things the way I do. But, then you seemed to use my own counter argument like for example the position in the series. I have no idea why you decided to take issue with my critique. I was expressing a personal dissatisfaction with an otherwise enjoyable experience, nothing more.
It certainly has nothing to do with realism. Nothing about Watchmen has ever been realistic. Watchmen as a comic was also self-consciously contrived, so nothing new there either.
“And I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, 'If this isn't nice, I don't know what is.” ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
It’s funny when this first came out a lot of people said it was interesting but asked why it needed to be Watchmen and said it kinda felt like they took similar concepts and slapped the name on it. But in the end we get Dr. Manhattan, a plot revolving around Dr. M. Silk Spectre as a major character. Veidt as a major character. Hooded Justice as Major character. An army of Rorshachs. Oh and the main villain is the son of the man who outlawed superheroes in the original
Very happy Looking Glass escaped. I really love the character and Tim Blake Nelson is one of my favorite actors. We hadn’t really gotten to see him fight before, but seeing the 7th Calvary on the ground shows that he can definitely take care of himself. When they were panning around his bomb shelter I noticed a copy of the New Frontiersman.