Godzilla vs The Avengers

[Stigmazilla]

Spoilers for Godzilla King of the Monsters.


Legendary Godzilla appears beside the Avengers upper New York Facility, instead of Thanos in Endgame. Can he take down the super team?

Round two: The Avengers get Thanos's help Godzilla gets Ghidorah, Rodan, Kong(skull island), and Mothra.

Round three: Godzilla is at full Power.

No infinity Gauntlet.

[The Arbiter]

If they fight them conventionally, the Titans are going to stomp all over them. Literally. Even Thanos' ship will get pulled out of the sky and smashed to pieces.

Ghidorahs sheer presence will be devastating to the fodder members of the Endgame armies, good and bad alike as Category 6 hurricane conditions toss them about and mess with their senses.

Rodan can divebomb over the battlefield and slaughter wizards and outriders alike with city killing winds and sonic booms.

Godzilla can one shot spacewhales and force both sides into a defensive posture, utterly ignoring their returned fire. Captain Marvel could like... maybe strike his head and potentially knock him over, but that's no big deal.

Stormbreaker is the only thing I see managing to do damage, but even it can only cut so deep.

[The Arbiter]

However!! BFR and Pym shrinking shenanigans can still play a major role here.

[Tomzilla]

Round 1: I'm assuming ALL the Avengers are present and accounted for, along with their reinforcements. Otherwise, it would be extremely one-sided.

Captain Marvel, Thor, Captain Thormerica, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man, and the army of sorcerers -- they're the only ones that have a shot at bringing the King of the Monsters down. Captain Marvel, Thor, and Thormerica have enough raw power to distract Godzilla; however, they're nowhere near strong enough to hurt him. Godzilla is durable enough to tank a nuke blowing up in his face. He's done this twice. Doctor Strange and his army of sorcerers can bypass Godzilla's durability altogether through a series of Sling Ring bisections. We know the Sling Rings can open up massive portals. Then Strange can try to dimension dump Godzilla (I suppose Thor could try and do the same by summoning the Bifrost).

Ant-Man is there to use Pym Particles to mess with Godzilla's size, or shrink down and wreck Godzilla on a cellular/molecular level.

Of course, Godzilla is one Atomic Blast away from wiping out the sorcerers.


Round 2: Oh my, God -- zilla. King Ghidorah alone could do this. His mere presence generates lightning strikes that were disintegrating people. There's a chance Thor's lightning powers him up to the point where he unleashes a massive electrical storm. And if by chance they somehow hurt him, Ghidorah's healing factor would negate all that. But Ghidorah isn't alone. There's Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, and Kong. Overkill.


Round 3: Time is of the essence. Getting hit by this Godzilla's Nuclear Pulse is the equivalent to getting hit by an actual nuke. His godlike durability is even more impressive (no-sold Ghidorah's Gravity Beams) and his Atomic Breath received an upgrade (completely disintegrated Ghidorah's head). Hell, this Godzilla's mere presence was reducing skyscrapers to molten slag. The MCU heroes/villains have moments to get their act together.

[The Arbiter]

Oh, yeah. Burning Godzilla was no joke.

His first pulse completely vaporized the wings of a creature who was previously tanking his breath with ease.

[Tomzilla]

Oh, yeah. Burning Godzilla was no joke.

His first pulse completely vaporized the wings of a creature who was previously tanking his breath with ease.

Not only that, but the second pulse disintegrated two of Ghidorah's heads.

I suspect MonsterVerse Burning Godzilla received a strength upgrade, too. His heavy stomp caved in Ghidorah's chest. He did something similar to the Female MUTO back in 2014, except all it did was pin her down.

Speaking of strength, Godzilla was physically tossing Ghidorah around like it was nothing. MonsterVerse King Ghidorah weighs 141,056 tons. It seems like that's above MCU's paygrade.

[The Arbiter]

Not only that, but the second pulse disintegrated two of Ghidorah's heads.

I suspect MonsterVerse Burning Godzilla received a strength upgrade, too. His heavy stomp caved in Ghidorah's chest. He did something similar to the Female MUTO back in 2014, except all it did was pin her down.

Speaking of strength, Godzilla was physically tossing Ghidorah around like it was nothing. MonsterVerse King Ghidorah weighs 141,056 tons. It seems like that's above MCU's paygrade.

His stats were through the roof post upgrade yeah.

Heck, even the high altitude drop was probably nuke level given the speed and weight involved. The resulting shockwave as well. He didnt LIKE that but he wasn't KO'd either.

[Twickster]

Godzilla is durable enough to tank a nuke blowing up in his face. He's done this twice.

One note: If anything, this actually discounts Godzilla's nuke feats, as the movie definitely shows that Godzilla does not take damage from nukes but heals him. I.e. any displays of "tanking nukes" from him would be automatically suspect due to going from "near death" to "150% capacity going into burning mode" with a nuke to the face. This is in the same vein as Ghidora not taking damage from the oxygen destroyer, but almost killing Godzilla due to plot reasons. Simply put, now one simply cannot make the case that "tanking a nuke" means anything towards durability as far as this version of Godzilla is concerned.

Not that it matters, because this Godzilla has durability feats applenty. Carry on.

[The Arbiter]

One note: If anything, this actually discounts Godzilla's nuke feats, as the movie definitely shows that Godzilla does not take damage from nukes but heals him. I.e. any displays of "tanking nukes" from him would be automatically suspect due to going from "near death" to "150% capacity going into burning mode" with a nuke to the face. This is in the same vein as Ghidora not taking damage from the oxygen destroyer, but almost killing Godzilla due to plot reasons. Simply put, now one simply cannot make the case that "tanking a nuke" means anything towards durability as far as this version of Godzilla is concerned.

Not that it matters, because this Godzilla has durability feats applenty. Carry on.

That was my biggest complaint with the movie tbh. The nuke stuff. Well, wormholes was pretty weird too lol.

But the nuke scene was weird because they have nuked Godzilla before. Numerous times. Some of it on film. Dude has never gotten a huge boost or gone critical from it before. I think one of the canon comics has it happen as well. And the times he was nuked in the past, he wasn't nearly dead moments before the nuking.

Why did it supercharge him?? The way radiation works with nuclear detonations it REALLY shouldn't. Like... an apple is people food. But if a professional baseball player fastballs an apple at a burn victim... they WON'T feel better lol.

The radiation to kinetic damage oomph ratio just doesn't work out in his favor.

Besides, the area he was chilling had mega lethal doses of radiation already being emitted. At the rate Serizawa was dying, it was probably twice hiroshimas radiation being dumped out every hour. Like 10k Roetgen (sp?) an hour to be that deadly in full gear.

So THAT alone should have done waaay more than the nuke.

So I'm left having to make theories. Never a good thing. My theory is that the nuke opened up the wellspring of radiation Godzilla was slow drip feeding from and allowed him to absorb all that untold ammount of radiation in his home at once.

See what I mean?? It was just a weird scene and the audience should never have to fill in gaps like that.

[Jcogginsa]

I don't why durability should even matter. The sling ring is not trying to actively chop you; it's straight up teleportation with a part of you staying where you are while the other part gets teleported. Durability has no bearing.

I see no reason to assume thing. The portal presumably needs to close in order for the portal cut to happen, and acting like it can go through anything based on only one example is a no limits fallacy

Honestly, I'd ignore WoG ?

Cuz like, if we don't, then it means Cap kissed (romantically) his great niece. Wait no .. that's just plot.

No it doesn't. The directors have said that Cap lived in an alternate timeline, which is what the films back up. Sharon isn't related to him

[Tomzilla]

One note: If anything, this actually discounts Godzilla's nuke feats, as the movie definitely shows that Godzilla does not take damage from nukes but heals him. I.e. any displays of "tanking nukes" from him would be automatically suspect due to going from "near death" to "150% capacity going into burning mode" with a nuke to the face. This is in the same vein as Ghidora not taking damage from the oxygen destroyer, but almost killing Godzilla due to plot reasons. Simply put, now one simply cannot make the case that "tanking a nuke" means anything towards durability as far as this version of Godzilla is concerned.

That's a reasonable argument. You're right about the Ghidorah/Oxygen Destroyer example. I'm not prepared to discount Godzilla's nuke feat just yet for the following reasons:

Nuclear explosions are dangerous because of the radiation, the heat, and the shockwave. Godzilla is strengthened by the radiation but completely resisted the heat and shockwave. Do you think Godzilla soaking up all that radiation instantaneously counterbalanced the heat and explosive force? That might be the case, what with Burning Godzilla's radioactive upgrade augmenting his stats.

At the very least, Godzilla surviving the Oxygen Destroyer might count as something.

[The Arbiter]

That's a reasonable argument. You're right about the Ghidorah/Oxygen Destroyer example. I'm not prepared to discount Godzilla's nuke feat just yet for the following reasons:

Nuclear explosions are dangerous because of the radiation, the heat, and the shockwave. Godzilla is strengthened by the radiation but completely resisted the heat and shockwave. Do you think Godzilla soaking up all that radiation instantaneously counterbalanced the heat and explosive force? That might be the case, what with Burning Godzilla's radioactive upgrade augmenting his stats.

At the very least, Godzilla surviving the Oxygen Destroyer might count as something.

Did you read my thoughts on the nuke stuff? Curious what your take is on them