The First Victim - was their identity ever revealed?

**exile001** · 05-08-2019, 08:39 AM

A big part of in James Tynion IV's Detective Comics run was The First Victim. Then he abruptly left 'Tec and The First Victim hasn't been seen since.

I'm pretty sure Tynion never revealed the identity during his run, so I'm just wondering if there's a quote or something out there explaining his ultimate plans for the character.

**Elmo** · 05-08-2019, 08:57 AM

I think Tynion already came out and said he had no intention of revealing it. the mystery of his character is what makes his character, so revealing it kind of takes the novelty away. I've seen some people speculate that he's the Joker.

**adrikito** · 05-08-2019, 01:42 PM

I am surprised to see this topic.. I wanted to know the same YESTERDAY.

NO.. Nothing..

There is one character that many fans suspected from him but... That character can also be the JOKER..

**MajorHoy** · 05-08-2019, 01:51 PM

Maybe the first victim could be . . . Aunt Harriet!

**Frontier** · 05-08-2019, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Elmo

I think Tynion already came out and said he had no intention of revealing it. the mystery of his character is what makes his character, so revealing it kind of takes the novelty away. I've seen some people speculate that he's the Joker.

I always liked the idea that it was that dude from the Chemical Syndicate way back in 'Tec #27.

**exile001** · 05-09-2019, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Frontier

I always liked the idea that it was that dude from the Chemical Syndicate way back in 'Tec #27.

The guy Batman punches into the chemical bath at the end? That would be cool.

I always thought it was Cluemaster, and there was either a convoluted reason for the gimmick or it was a just a straight up lie. Stephanie's story seemed to keep bringing her towards TFV, and those issues usually also referenced Cluemaster.

I suppose the biggest mystery will always be how did he breathe? His mask looks like a blood filled, air tight plastic bag. Lol

**Restingvoice** · 05-09-2019, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Frontier

I always liked the idea that it was that dude from the Chemical Syndicate way back in 'Tec #27.

I like this idea

That guy's big though if I remember correctly, and the First Victim is rail thin

Maybe he shrunk

**SixSpeedSamurai** · 05-09-2019, 05:26 AM

It was ....... Red Herring!

**The Cool Thatguy** · 05-10-2019, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Elmo

I think Tynion already came out and said he had no intention of revealing it. the mystery of his character is what makes his character, so revealing it kind of takes the novelty away. I've seen some people speculate that he's the Joker.

These days, that feels supremely lazy

**Mutant God** · 05-10-2019, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by SixSpeedSamurai

It was ....... Red Herring!

Ooh, another Batman/Scooby-Doo crossover

**Elmo** · 05-10-2019, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy

These days, that feels supremely lazy

To you. I thought he was great for a one-time villain

**Westbats** · 06-02-2019, 10:45 AM

I'd be interested if they came back for another story, maybe written by Tomasi if Tynion isn't available for it. I could see Tynion making them the central villain for a possible run if he was to be the next writer on Batman.

**Jackalope89** · 06-02-2019, 11:05 AM

He's Bob, from the Enzyte commercials. Batman, in his early days in training, accidentally got Bob fired. And so, Bob became First Victim.

**TheNewFiftyForum** · 06-02-2019, 01:59 PM

I read it as being a woman, and someone you were never supposed to know exactly who it was. Just one of many henchmen and bystanders getting caught in Batman's crossfire during the years.

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