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    Default MCU Scarlet Witch vs MCU Ebony Maw

    Seeing as MCU Wanda had Thanos on the ropes, how would she do against Ebony Maw?

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    Maw dies before he finishes his monologue.

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    Seems like a quickdraw.

    Neither one can block the other from a neck snap or just popping each other's heads off in mutually assured destruction.

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    I think this is the same as "Maw vs. Strange". I.e. Technically Strange was more powerful, but Maw kept on continuously interrupting him before he could get his better spells and effects off.

    Wanda is a glass canon, and needs a bit of time to get her TK up and running. Maw gets his off with a thought. Quickdraw goes to Maw.

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    Does Maw have any feats using his TK directly on a person that I’m forgetting or are they all purely indirect (I.e. he uses his TK to hit people with stuff instead of attacking them with it directly). Because if he has no feats that suggest he can directly use his TK on organic substances than Wanda should win this fight ever single time without question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenal View Post
    Does Maw have any feats using his TK directly on a person that I’m forgetting or are they all purely indirect (I.e. he uses his TK to hit people with stuff instead of attacking them with it directly). Because if he has no feats that suggest he can directly use his TK on organic substances than Wanda should win this fight ever single time without question.
    The only one I can think of is when he shoved Cull aside in Infinity War. He doesn't have a problem manipulating organic material directly, I guess he just chooses not to.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post
    I think this is the same as "Maw vs. Strange". I.e. Technically Strange was more powerful, but Maw kept on continuously interrupting him before he could get his better spells and effects off.

    Wanda is a glass canon, and needs a bit of time to get her TK up and running. Maw gets his off with a thought. Quickdraw goes to Maw.
    That's how I see it as well. He's just plain faster than anyone who needs to do a little dance to get their effects off.

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    Wanda: you took everything from me.
    Maw: *sealing her mouth with a piece of debris*
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    Quote Originally Posted by k von doom View Post
    Seeing as MCU Wanda had Thanos on the ropes, how would she do against Ebony Maw?
    So it's basically the woman who had Thanos begging for mercy versus one of Thanos's intimidated minions. I think you answered your own question.
    Power with Girl is better.

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    Here's the way I see it. Wanda's upper limit seems far beyond Maw's, just look at how she lifted and threw Thanos' giant killer hamster wheels. Maw however has much better fine control, turning dozens of bricks into spikes. However the real difference comes in specific applications. Wanda can block and attack with her TK directly, Maw can't, he has to manipulate an object, like when he tried to shield himself with a car but one of his own brick spikes got through anyway, but Wanda makes actual barriers. As for a TK neck snap or something similar, defending against that is simple, Wands or Maw uses their own TK to hold their neck in place directly, you don't block the attack, you oppose it with equal force. But as Wanda has shown to be capable of greater force than Maw, she can overpower his defensive TK and crush him regardless.

    As for Maw controlling organic matter, he gagged Thor rather than pinch his mouth shut. He used a platform to move Strange rather than lift him directly. And as for Cull, that doesn't necessarily kill the idea, Maw could have simply affected his clothing, not his body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyvurg View Post
    Here's the way I see it. Wanda's upper limit seems far beyond Maw's, just look at how she lifted and threw Thanos' giant killer hamster wheels. Maw however has much better fine control, turning dozens of bricks into spikes. However the real difference comes in specific applications. Wanda can block and attack with her TK directly, Maw can't, he has to manipulate an object, like when he tried to shield himself with a car but one of his own brick spikes got through anyway, but Wanda makes actual barriers. As for a TK neck snap or something similar, defending against that is simple, Wands or Maw uses their own TK to hold their neck in place directly, you don't block the attack, you oppose it with equal force. But as Wanda has shown to be capable of greater force than Maw, she can overpower his defensive TK and crush him regardless.

    As for Maw controlling organic matter, he gagged Thor rather than pinch his mouth shut. He used a platform to move Strange rather than lift him directly. And as for Cull, that doesn't necessarily kill the idea, Maw could have simply affected his clothing, not his body.
    With nothing to go off of (narration or greater context as to the nature of his powers), I'm happy calling him being unable to affect organic matter as simple PIS. Artistic Licence on the character. Matter is matter.

    Lots of PIS actually. Him needing the car as a shield for example. All those spikes were inorganic matter. He could have just grabbed or blocked them with TK equal to the force he tossed them with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    With nothing to go off of (narration or greater context as to the nature of his powers), I'm happy calling him being unable to affect organic matter as simple PIS. Artistic Licence on the character. Matter is matter.

    Lots of PIS actually. Him needing the car as a shield for example. All those spikes were inorganic matter. He could have just grabbed or blocked them with TK equal to the force he tossed them with.
    You tellin' me rocks is inorganic ? Tell that to the Thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    With nothing to go off of (narration or greater context as to the nature of his powers), I'm happy calling him being unable to affect organic matter as simple PIS. Artistic Licence on the character. Matter is matter.

    Lots of PIS actually. Him needing the car as a shield for example. All those spikes were inorganic matter. He could have just grabbed or blocked them with TK equal to the force he tossed them with.
    Eh, I could see the argument for it either way. But Wanda can still neck-twist harder than Maw can neck-not-twist.
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