Rumblers League Week 2: moonknight11 v Darth Drizzle

[KJS]

Venue: Ego

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MOONKNIGHT11 v DARTH DRIZZLE

[KJS]

Operation Darth's Team is scary oh god oh ****

Notes: We are four miles removed. I won't go for an initial blitz, i'll use my speedster for other purposes. The opposing team will likely teleport near my team as they have the space stone and boom tubes. Also kinda funny but ive only watched Legion season 1 and dont want to spoil myself so ive handicapped myself not researched everything Legion can do.


BRING ME THANOS

Thor is enraged and now he has a chance to smash Thanos. He jumps hundreds of meters in the air and goes god mode, if he sees the enemy team (and Thanos) he will chuck his gigantic Stormbreaker right at them just like at the end of Infinity War. If he doesnt see them he will be flying looking for them. Honestly from a 70 meter high vantage point he should be able to see them right off the bat. Either way if he has eyes on them, he's chucking his axe.

DALEKS

Usual, Dalek Caan slaps a severed hand on his machine activating it and unleashing a ton of Daleks. They'll give Ego a headache. Those Daleks will be instructed to target the enemy team.

PSI
My MVP last match, she's taking a breather. The team effort doesn't hinge on her. If any team teleports near, she hits them with her fear based telepathy. If she feels a telepath near her area she will attack their mind like she did the Martian Manhunter. She's staying close to Hela, to ward off any tp attacks. She'll target Purity if she gets a chance.

VISION

His goal is Ultron as always. Ultron may be even more powerful and more adaptable, but Vision has a magic sword that makes him way quicker than Ultron. Ultron will never hit him, motherbox or not. He'll of course target any other enemy if Ultron is defeated.

HELLA HELA

As soon as any portal opens near her, she's throwing her swords right through it. If no one is teleporting near, she'll just fly forward and try to target the enemy team. Shadowed by Psi the whole way. S

DAVID HALLER IS A PROBLEM

David Haller is a problem with nearly no solution EXCEPT ONE. IIRC he slowed time down to stop a bullet. How about someone hundreds of times faster than a bullet?

To attack someone, you need to be able to target them. But what if you can't? What if you sense in one direction, and the next and the next and they're not there?

Quicksilver is doing something far more clever than a boring speedblitz at the bell, he'll be moving so fast constantly and no one will be able to see him. No one will perceive him. X-Telepaths have a range problem, and they won't be able to attack Quicksilver's mind if he keeps moving back and forth. Which is why he targets David Haller. He will disassemble his x-gene cure gun, and stick Haller with one of cure darts, then give him a nice shield bash. He will also target phoenix and do the same. He will target purity and just shield bash her a bunch. She can take it, but a shield at hypersonic speeds will mess her up. He will behead Ultron with it. He's gonna shield bash Thanos too, but from a far via a thrown shield. If that works he'll keep it up.

QUICKSILVER IS A PROBLEM

Quicksilver starts the match by running several hundred feet west. A millisecond later he goes back. He will be zigzagging and always aware of his environment. Its the advantages of living in a virtual timestop.

The first second of the match will be spent zigzagging in a couple of mile radius surrounding my starting area. Enemy members will teleport, telepaths may try to target his mind. But they can't target what they can't detect. He'll move my team members out of the way of enemy attacks if needed, and strike whoever teleports in.

He'll be running around a lot after that, in the general direction of the enemy team. He'll find Haller and Phoenix eventually and defeat them. And he will find every other enemy team member. Quicksilver is my wrecking ball this time, and he will be a very tired wrecking ball by the end.

*GODZILLA THEME PLAYS*

This is not Rexy's time. She will provide a distraction for Ego though. She's the biggest thing here and will be wrecking **** just by existing. So both of our teams should be helped by her taking the Ego attention and following hits.

X-MAN

its a rough time to be xavier. a future son and a future version of his student all here and more powerful than he. damn. no matter. he will fly and do his best to hold off any telepathic attack. he will tepathically attack anyone who teleports in. otherwise he's ready to fight a losing battle against either of the enemy telepaths. better for the enemy to focus on him than to target more fragile people in my team.


Final words:

Quicksilver is alert, he's running all over the place, he's shield bashing, he's faster than anyone here, he's faster than any AOE can happen. He will accomplish this mission and he will be my MVP.

[KJS]

The Chosen:
The Chosen starts by stopping time which can't be countered by anyone on team Untitled, teleports his team 400ft above and 100ft behind his enemies, and targets Quicksilver and Psi. He proceeds to atomize/dust Quicksilver(:55) and the Darts with his highly amped powers and seeing as the Chosen is a high end bullet timer before his NZT pill/Mind Stone boost and can stop time with a thought he should be able to counter Quicksilver here. Add in the fact that he has Auto Sheilds(2:50) shown in this clip and in the previous clip above(shown right before he dusts his enemies :55 sec in) and Pietro isn't depowering the Chosen or anyone else before being taken out, and then he does the same to Psi(without needing to get into Fear range or inside her mind).

The Chosen without any power boosts telepathically interacted with people in another city and now with the Mind Stone being able to instantly communicate across the Galaxy and his NZT boosting his intelligence he can and will take out Quicksilver wherever he is and will use his amped Reality Warping powers to achieve this as well, and the same goes for Psi.

After taking out Quicksilver and with Time still stopped he turns his power on the rest of his enemies. He uses his amped Reality Warping abilities and turns the Doctors hand into a baseball glove and seals the Genesis Ark by making it smooth like a metal egg along with Caan. He merges Psi, Hela, and Vision into Ego with his TK/Reality powers(taking away Visions phasing like Wanda via Reality/Mind Stone combo) taking them out the fight. Then he teleports Tyranno and Thor to Ego's main body in the Palace and telepathically shows Ego the disrespectful way Thor treats his son as Tyranno attacks him and Ego should dispose of both of them
Taken Out: Quicksilver, Can/Gen Ark, Psi, Vision, Hela, Thor, Tyranno



The Phoenix Queen:
She starts by targeting Xavier and while sheilding herself she once again destroy's him as she is now committed to her Dark powers and is amped highly by the Coronet of Rassilon and in a immortal body that doesn't fatigue. After Xavier is down she turns her mental powers on Quicksilver, Thor, and Hela and shuts them down with a mental command, then turns to Vision and TK rips the Mind Stone from his head, and if Caan is still around she turns into a sand cloud and engulfs him withen her TK dust prison and gets into his casing and crushes him or crushes him without getting in.
Taken Out: Xavier, Thor, Hell, Caan, Vision, Quicksilver


The Omni-Titan:
He starts by targeting Thor and the Genesis Ark/Caan , then using the Space Stone he phases and TK pulls/ports them deep into Ego's core. Thanos then unphases them near the core causing intense if not fatal pain and alerts Ego to their presence as giant Thor and Caan thrases around inside of him (if alive) and the Ark can't operate and malfunctions.

Hela is next on his list and he goes one on one with this worthy for and teleports to her. He uses his high end Gravity manipulation and portal creation to counter her sword projectiles and gets into hth combat with her. While both at base is a good fight Thanos with his items here has an advantage and he uses them here with precise TK to stop or alter her physical movements and Gravity powers to augment the strength of his punches/kicks he takes her out soundly, then phases any other opponents left into uselessness.
Taken Out: Thor, Genesis Ark/Caan, Hela, rest of team

The Ultra Adaptron:
With his immunity to Psi's power he targets her and Tyranno then uses his Stark/Borg enhanced Motherbox powers to Boomtube them 2 miles away and upwards into the Air and lets them drop. If for some reason he can't port them he uses his Thor+ strength, Gravity bursts, Hand lasers, and Extremis heat blades and Flight to take them out. If Psi and Tyranno can't be targeted at once he goes for Psi first and foremost and doesn't stop until she is taken out, using boomtubes and flight calculations to get to her in the fastest and most efficient way possible. He then targets the Genesis Ark(if still around) and hacks into it to shut it down and does the same to Caan. If it can't be hacked successfully then he boomtubes it inside Ego's Palace and let's him deal with it.
Taken Out: Psi, Tyranno, Can, Gen Ark


The Shaker of Stars:
She starts by targeting Quicksilver and counters any blitz attempt as she uses her TK to crush his legs and arms on sight then speeds over and punches him into high orbit with her strength. She then targets Thor and opens a portal next to his ear, flies through it at full speed while using her Vibration abilities, and slams through Thor's ear canal damaging all the sensative places and destroying his equilibrium, balance, and hearing. If needed she opens a portal inside his head and TKs pieces through or bisects them with portal cut offs. Hela is next for her and using her speed to avoid her sword throws she blitzes Hela with Kryptonian speed/strength, lifts her with TK and throws her through a portal. She then speeds around like a missle and takes out any enemies left.
Taken Out: Quicksilver, Thor, Hela

Contingencies/Counters
For Psi's power: Ultron being robotic would be immune to her powers. David/Chosen recently beat his worst fear and is now heavily amped power wise(Mind Stone) and mentally wise(NZT pills) so he wouldn't be hampered by her powers. Jean literally became her worst Nightmare after killing Xavier and Scott and embraced her dark powers so Psi wouldn't affect her either. Thanos already got over his worst fear after killing Gamora and wouldn't fall for Psi's tricks. Purity had a split personality if good and bad and the Bad side won, and erased the good so she became her own worst fear as well and wouldn't be effected by Psi.

[moonknight11]

Hmm, the way the strategies interact, a lot depends on that timestop working out. I tried to find clips of it, but couldn't. Can you prove it can last indefinitely and be used like this?

Off the initial impression and discounting the time stop, Thanos vs Thor will end with Thanos being splattered.

[Darth Drizzle]

Post 1

Going by the Enemy strat;

Thor- In the Strat he leaps forward hoping to use his height advantage to see my team and throw his Axe at them. But as the Chosen has teleported his team behind and above Thor and crew it leaves Thanos open to phase him deep into Ego as planned, and open to Purity's assault plus Jean and Chosen attacks.

Daleks: In the Strat Caan and the Ark do general moves after he uses the hand. But before he does anything worth while they get phased and buried as the Ark needs to have the hand placed, then fly high into the air, then start to beam out Daleks, all before Thanos thinks. Also Chosn, Jean, and Ultron specifically have him covered.

Psi: In the Strat she hangs back and attacks whoever comes into range. So she gets attacked by Ultron as planned and teleported to her death, or loses a straight fight against this super powered Ultron as written. She is also targeted specifically by Chosen and Jean and is taken out.

Hela: In the Strat she waits around and throws swords at whoever she can. So while waiting she is either blitzed by Purity, mind whammied by Jean, warped by Chosen, or loses a one on one fight with Thanos.

Quicksilver: In the Strat he runs around hoping to not be seen or felt and attacks when he sees a opening. So this means Purity who is Flash fast on sight crushes him with TK(which is invisible btw) as planned. Also The Chosen even before amps hasn't had trouble with targeting anything, whether it be in the physical world or another dimension (the Astral Plane) or even visible(he was aware of the Shadow King who didn't even have a body).

Also with the Mind Stone boosting him which has the speed to instantly cross the Galaxy to connect minds and the NZT pills which allowed a normal human to calculate a Sniper rounds trajectory and whether having it hit him in specific spot would be better for him socially all from a glint from it's scope.

Plus much like Apocalypse captured Quicksilver David has used the same move of capturing/merging people with the environment (the scene leading up to my above videos showed this on a large scale as dozens of troops were merged in the ground, into statues, and into the building itself). And some good feats to show that vision isn't everything while wearing a power dampener tha severly lowers his powers to keep the Shadow King at Bay(that thing around his head) he precisely tagets multiple people out of visual range with ease. Even in the first or second episode of the series his power Reality Warps an entire building full of people with precision sending people back into their rooms except for Lenny who as shown in my picture in my strat is merged into a wall.

Add in that Quicksilver has a losing record against TK users(going by his Apocalypse loss and the Phoenix trailer where he is about to get wrecked) and he is toast here.

[Darth Drizzle]

Post 2

Hmm, the way the strategies interact, a lot depends on that timestop working out. I tried to find clips of it, but couldn't. Can you prove it can last indefinitely and be used like this?

Off the initial impression and discounting the time stop, Thanos vs Thor will end with Thanos being splattered.

I sort of explained it last match but the Time Stop lasts 2 episodes, part of Episode 6 and most of 7 and yes it is completely stopped. Also they were in the Astral Plane for Days before anyone noticed the changes meanwhile the bullets weren't moving at all. So while David was in the Astral Plane he was using his powers their and his powers were still working in the physical world. I have the ending but to sum it up.

In episode 6 the Shadow Kind devises a way to take over David by targeting his girlfriend Syd. He manipulates a person to bust in and shoot Syd with a Tommy Gun and fires multiple bullets at her. David in a panick stops time and and accidentally takes everyone's minds to the Astral Plane with him and Syd. Suddenly each person is in a alternate Psych ward talking to Lenny(Shadow King) as he wants to trap them all there and take over David's body in the real world and he puts David in a coffin. But Syd notices something is off and tells others.

Now we get to Episode 7 and Melanie and Oliver are able to leave as David breaks out of the coffin prison and looks for everyone. Now the bullets start to move as the Shadow King starts to go the offensive as he can't control David anymore. Melanie and Oliver rush to David and Syd and seeing that the bullets were moving again they know David and the rest are in trouble.

Now for this clip it starts with David out if the coffin prison and in the fake Psych Ward looking for a way to break everyone out. Walter(mutant with TP powers) is killed by the Shadow King in the Astral plane and you see his physical body explode with blood(proving you die there you die for real). He then changes the AP World into a silent movie and stalks Syd and crew(crazy I know) but then Rudy(TK mutant) arrives to save them. Then seeing Carry, Oliver, and Melanie in the real world trying to help David the Shadow King easily moves out of the AP and into the real world and attacks Oliver. But that gives David the chance to blow up the entire fake building breaking everyone out and for Carry to put on the power dampener. He then easily position's himself in front of Syd, catches the bullets behind his back and that ends the time stop. Then he teleports everybody out in a flash. Here is the clip.

Also Thanos easily phases Thor into uselessness(1:03) with a thought so Thor unfortunately takes another L courtesy of Space Grimmace

[moonknight11]

Post 2



I sort of explained it last match but the Time Stop lasts 2 episodes, part of Episode 6 and most of 7 and yes it is completely stopped. Also they were in the Astral Plane for Days before anyone noticed the changes meanwhile the bullets weren't moving at all. So while David was in the Astral Plane he was using his powers their and his powers were still working in the physical world. I have the ending but to sum it up.

In episode 6 the Shadow Kind devises a way to take over David by targeting his girlfriend Syd. He manipulates a person to bust in and shoot Syd with a Tommy Gun and fires multiple bullets at her. David in a panick stops time and and accidentally takes everyone's minds to the Astral Plane with him and Syd. Suddenly each person is in a alternate Psych ward talking to Lenny(Shadow King) as he wants to trap them all there and take over David's body in the real world and he puts David in a coffin. But Syd notices something is off and tells others.

Now we get to Episode 7 and Melanie and Oliver are able to leave as David breaks out of the coffin prison and looks for everyone. Now the bullets start to move as the Shadow King starts to go the offensive as he can't control David anymore. Melanie and Oliver rush to David and Syd and seeing that the bullets were moving again they know David and the rest are in trouble.

Now for this clip it starts with David out if the coffin prison and in the fake Psych Ward looking for a way to break everyone out. Walter(mutant with TP powers) is killed by the Shadow King in the Astral plane and you see his physical body explode with blood(proving you die there you die for real). He then changes the AP World into a silent movie and stalks Syd and crew(crazy I know) but then Rudy(TK mutant) arrives to save them. Then seeing Carry, Oliver, and Melanie in the real world trying to help David the Shadow King easily moves out of the AP and into the real world and attacks Oliver. But that gives David the chance to blow up the entire fake building breaking everyone out and for Carry to put on the power dampener. He then easily position's himself in front of Syd, catches the bullets behind his back and that ends the time stop. Then he teleports everybody out in a flash. Here is the clip.

Also Thanos easily phases Thor into uselessness(1:03) with a thought so Thor unfortunately takes another L courtesy of Space Grimmace

I see. Good move can't argue on too many points here.

However there is still range and attack potency. The example provided of the guards isn't impressive as they basically all come out of hiding and surround him. Quicksilver is gonna be much further away, and once he gets a chance Phoenix Queen will be TP less, as i doubt her helmet can survive a solid shield bash. Purity can do nothing as she has garbage reaction feats. Pretty much the whole supergirl cast does aside from the odd supergirl/flash crossover.

Even with all the boosts, Tyranno and Thor are more massive than anything David has handled before. Teleporting them to Ego won't do anything anyway, Ego is weaksauce next to a 70m tall Thor who's gonna be thousands of times more powerful than he already was. What's he gonna do to Tyranno as well? Throw rocks at him?

Then you're sending my giants to the core which is an extremely bad move. it will do nothing, all you're doing is exposing Tyranno to ego's vulnerable part. That's where ego's brain is. The giant Dinosaur thrashing around will kill ego. After that, he's basically left with no one targeting him. Basically no matter what the planet will be falling apart. I bet Tyranno survives, as Godzilla is a giant tank and Tyranno is running on G-juice.

Thor as well can easily fly back up and smash Thanos while the latter is not paying attention. Thor is more or less impervious to whatever the enemy does. He's 6000 tons of Asgardian. With just two hundred lbs of muscle MCU thor can wreck the hulk. Purity is massively outpowered here, and as soon as she gets close she'll be hit by his lightning cloak. He'll also survive the planet destruction probably, being blown up with the power stone and left in space didn't kill his teeny tiny form after all.

[Darth Drizzle]

Post 3

For Purity:
The "crossover" shows are cannon and in both events it shows Supergirl as superior to everyone including Flash. It shows how Kryptonians(both Superman and Supergirl) are as fast as the Flash barring any special speed force moves. The fight scenes in Supergirl don't show speed alot, but that is all show budget related and they show breif moments of speed when they can. Like here where Purity fghts 3 speedy people at once. You see Purity and Supergirl showing speedy moves/actions even Purity dodging point blank Heat Vision and Mon El using blur Speeding several times to show they do use speed in these situations, but they don't have the money to show every Supergirl fight at super speed.

Plus with her strength/durability amped by TK that allowed weak teenagers to crash through buildings Superman style while weakened and Thor is in trouble . Especially as Puritys Sonic scream and Vibration powers (shown in clip) are combined/amplified by her new Glowing Crystal sonic/vibration powers that can shatter skyscraper windows for blocks(as shown in clip) being applied directly into Thors giant ear drum means he is taken out by her if he gets that far.

For David:
Range isn't an issue for David as he has teleported a car and Lenny from the East coast to either Death Valley or somewhere in the Middle East(Syd literally had to take a super sonic fighter Jet to get their somewhat quickly), and Astral connected to his Sister when she was in a different city entirely. Add in the Mind Stones space spanning connections and the NZT pills enhancing his brain and he will get Quicksilver faster than Apocalypse did(and that only took a second or less given the speed they were operating at and he was being attacked at the same time) and Apocalypse didn't have the powers/abilities/intelligence that the Chosen has here.

Thor and Tyranno won't escape Ego either as his control over the planet is much more dangerous than being big,

For Thanos:
As shown he can phase Thor out of the match by merging him with Ego(which would take out or severly injure him) or keeping him phased and unable to do anything but watch.

[moonknight11]

Post 3

For Purity:
The "crossover" shows are cannon and in both events it shows Supergirl as superior to everyone including Flash. It shows how Kryptonians(both Superman and Supergirl) are as fast as the Flash barring any special speed force moves. The fight scenes in Supergirl don't show speed alot, but that is all show budget related and they show breif moments of speed when they can. Like here where Purity fghts 3 speedy people at once. You see Purity and Supergirl showing speedy moves/actions even Purity dodging point blank Heat Vision and Mon El using blur Speeding several times to show they do use speed in these situations, but they don't have the money to show every Supergirl fight at super speed.

Plus with her strength/durability amped by TK that allowed weak teenagers to crash through buildings Superman style while weakened and Thor is in trouble . Especially as Puritys Sonic scream and Vibration powers (shown in clip) are combined/amplified by her new Glowing Crystal sonic/vibration powers that can shatter skyscraper windows for blocks(as shown in clip) being applied directly into Thors giant ear drum means he is taken out by her if he gets that far.

That TK won't be amping much. Purity is already stronger than that TK. Thor can already stand immense vibrations and shockwaves such as in Sokovia. Giant Thor will only be massively more durable. As for her generic blur speed, that's mcu Quicksilver level at best.

For David:
Range isn't an issue for David as he has teleported a car and Lenny from the East coast to either Death Valley or somewhere in the Middle East(Syd literally had to take a super sonic fighter Jet to get their somewhat quickly), and Astral connected to his Sister when she was in a different city entirely. Add in the Mind Stones space spanning connections and the NZT pills enhancing his brain and he will get Quicksilver faster than Apocalypse did(and that only took a second or less given the speed they were operating at and he was being attacked at the same time) and Apocalypse didn't have the powers/abilities/intelligence that the Chosen has here.

You don't actually know that. Apocalypse was incredibly powerful and able to speed up his perception mid attack. Legion would have been KOd in the same scenario. That see scenario doesn't track since if Pietro had the mutant cure he would have also defeated apocalypse. Those are all people he already has a psychic link to.

Thor and Tyranno won't escape Ego either as his control over the planet is much more dangerous than being big,

That control doesn't amount to much.
His energy rock tentacles are tiny compared to my Kaiju. He'd be hard pressed to keep Regular Thor down when those tentacles get blown off by Rocket Racoon and Yondu.

For Thanos:
As shown he can phase Thor out of the match by merging him with Ego(which would take out or severly injure him) or keeping him phased and unable to do anything but watch.

Why would that injure him? Unlike the Hulkbuster, Giant Thor can bust out of whatever rock he's trapped in then catch Thanos unawares.

Keeping him phased won't work when Thor has his axe. It already negated the power of all gems in one beam, why wouldn't it negate phasing and just splatter Thanos? He gets got by the Axe again, but there's no chance of surviving this one.

There's no method in your strategy that actually deals with Tyranno as he's too big to boom tube, too big to disintegrate, too big big for tiny Ultron to even damage.

[Darth Drizzle]

That TK won't be amping much. Purity is already stronger than that TK. Thor can already stand immense vibrations and shockwaves such as in Sokovia. Giant Thor will only be massively more durable. As for her generic blur speed, that's mcu Quicksilver level at best.



You don't actually know that. Apocalypse was incredibly powerful and able to speed up his perception mid attack. Legion would have been KOd in the same scenario. That see scenario doesn't track since if Pietro had the mutant cure he would have also defeated apocalypse. Those are all people he already has a psychic link to.



That control doesn't amount to much.
His energy rock tentacles are tiny compared to my Kaiju. He'd be hard pressed to keep Regular Thor down when those tentacles get blown off by Rocket Racoon and Yondu.






Why would that injure him? Unlike the Hulkbuster, Giant Thor can bust out of whatever rock he's trapped in then catch Thanos unawares.

Keeping him phased won't work when Thor has his axe. It already negated the power of all gems in one beam, why wouldn't it negate phasing and just splatter Thanos? He gets got by the Axe again, but there's no chance of surviving this one.

There's no method in your strategy that actually deals with Tyranno as he's too big to boom tube, too big to disintegrate, too big big for tiny Ultron to even damage.

The TK amp would stack to her abilities as a TK amped Purity would easily beat a non TK Purity as she can amp herself up. But it's not the physical boosting here that is key, it's the double amping of Sonic powers being applied directly into Thors ear from inside his head. Nothing in any movie that Thor has been in has shown that he can no sell a sonic attack from inside his head, as durability has nothing to do with it. Also she doesn't have to fly up to Thor as she has a Sling Ring that instantly puts her there, and again she is Flash fast as she fought Supergirl after both crossover events that displayed their speed(as the crossover has a much bigger budget than regular episodes).

Legion would not be KO'd because his Auto Sheilds would have stopped QS, or his Time Stop would have stopped him, or him doing exactly what Apocalypse did and merged QS feet to the ground as again he has done so to a entire SWAT team. And this is before we add his Mind Stone boost and the NZT boost which on first use gave a slacker photographic memory and able to remember everything he has ever seen(NSFW breifly around 3:30) and another person awakened hyper senses and became a genius in minutes and solved a unsolvable case. Here David has the final version of the pill and 2 weeks of evolving, which in the movie after 2 weeks of use he was doing extreme things. Plus the Mind Stone has the capability to enhance intelligence much like NZT does and with his Intelligence boosted David would have both working in tandem easily.

Tyranno is specifically targeted by Ultron and even Godzilla falling from 2 miles high would not survive that, and given Tyranno's body shape there is no way he can brace himself and would land headfirst. Even in a direct fight Ultrons Motherbox/Borg enhanced Thor level strength and Vibranium claws with Extremis heat blades would beat Big G as mecha Zilla and robot Kiryu have pierced his hide with less power than Ultron has here along with extreme Mobility that wouldnt let Big G hit him physically or with any breath attack.

Also the Motherboxs boomtubes transported entire Armies, and here it's boosted by Ultron/Stark Tech and the Borg probes with their transportation knowledge and upgrades, so Tyranno would be ported pretty easily.

Thor being merged into Ego would absolutely hurt or take him out as his flesh and internal organs are smashed and deformed as they merge with the planet(Hulkbuster armor isn't an actual body so there is no pain for Bruce in that scene).

Stormbreaker can't depower the Space Stone just by being near it, nor would it reverse it's effects after they happen. Especially as he would drop it the moment he is phased and Thor has no molecular control over his body.

[moonknight11]

I'm gonna reply to your points as soon as I can when I get on my laptop Drizzle, but I'mma burn a post to ask if any of our peers have questions.

So far this thread is just us talking to each other lol.

[moonknight11]

The TK amp would stack to her abilities as a TK amped Purity would easily beat a non TK Purity as she can amp herself up. But it's not the physical boosting here that is key, it's the double amping of Sonic powers being applied directly into Thors ear from inside his head. Nothing in any movie that Thor has been in has shown that he can no sell a sonic attack from inside his head, as durability has nothing to do with it. Also she doesn't have to fly up to Thor as she has a Sling Ring that instantly puts her there, and again she is Flash fast as she fought Supergirl after both crossover events that displayed their speed(as the crossover has a much bigger budget than regular episodes).

Legion would not be KO'd because his Auto Sheilds would have stopped QS, or his Time Stop would have stopped him, or him doing exactly what Apocalypse did and merged QS feet to the ground as again he has done so to a entire SWAT team. And this is before we add his Mind Stone boost and the NZT boost which on first use gave a slacker photographic memory and able to remember everything he has ever seen(NSFW breifly around 3:30) and another person awakened hyper senses and became a genius in minutes and solved a unsolvable case. Here David has the final version of the pill and 2 weeks of evolving, which in the movie after 2 weeks of use he was doing extreme things. Plus the Mind Stone has the capability to enhance intelligence much like NZT does and with his Intelligence boosted David would have both working in tandem easily.

Tyranno is specifically targeted by Ultron and even Godzilla falling from 2 miles high would not survive that, and given Tyranno's body shape there is no way he can brace himself and would land headfirst. Even in a direct fight Ultrons Motherbox/Borg enhanced Thor level strength and Vibranium claws with Extremis heat blades would beat Big G as mecha Zilla and robot Kiryu have pierced his hide with less power than Ultron has here along with extreme Mobility that wouldnt let Big G hit him physically or with any breath attack.

Also the Motherboxs boomtubes transported entire Armies, and here it's boosted by Ultron/Stark Tech and the Borg probes with their transportation knowledge and upgrades, so Tyranno would be ported pretty easily.

Thor being merged into Ego would absolutely hurt or take him out as his flesh and internal organs are smashed and deformed as they merge with the planet(Hulkbuster armor isn't an actual body so there is no pain for Bruce in that scene).

Stormbreaker can't depower the Space Stone just by being near it, nor would it reverse it's effects after they happen. Especially as he would drop it the moment he is phased and Thor has no molecular control over his body.

The bolded: Why? Chronicle TK isn't beyond and frankly behind purity physically. She gets another tool and can influence things from afar, but its not gonna make her any physically stronger. Another thing, Purity will never get inside Thor's head. To use a sling ring you have to visualize whats at the other end. She's not visualizing whatever giant part of Thor's anatomy she's gonna target, especially not the second time she uses it. I'd find it hard to believe Strange could do it let alone this newbie. As for her being flash fast. Show it. Show a single flash level reaction feat. She had a stand off with a normal human and couldnt beat her to the trigger. Thats not flash fast.

Tyrannon's proportionially teeny arms are still too big to fit through a boom tube.

Ultron is tiny, and if the best feat for his heat blades is cutting a dudes arm off, then he's doing nothing to the thousands of tons of irradiated super flesh covering Tyranno. I wouldn't bet on regular 6' tall thor to beat a godzilla tier kaiju either.

Thor being merged into Ego would absolutely hurt or take him out as his flesh and internal organs are smashed and deformed as they merge with the planet(Hulkbuster armor isn't an actual body so there is no pain for Bruce in that scene).

You realize Bruce is IN the hulkbuster armor and also trapped in the rock by Thanos right? Thanos phases people into stuff, but it doesn't hurt them. Why would it hurt Thor? He will trap Thor in rock and be blindsided when that entombent does not work.


The autoshield may stop bullets but thats not particularly impressive. Quicksilver can barrel through and shield bash. All those extra abilities Haller has are cool, but they just make him smarter and better at multitasking presumably but he's still gotta find a guy he's never met. Killing Hela is undoable as shes indestructible and made of incredibly tough stuff. Merging her to rocks does nothing to her.

[KJS]

I'm gonna reply to your points as soon as I can when I get on my laptop Drizzle, but I'mma burn a post to ask if any of our peers have questions.

So far this thread is just us talking to each other lol.

That's generally the idea unless questions arise.

I don't personally have any that you haven't asked each other, so I'm keeping out of it.

[Darth Drizzle]

The bolded: Why? Chronicle TK isn't beyond and frankly behind purity physically. She gets another tool and can influence things from afar, but its not gonna make her any physically stronger. Another thing, Purity will never get inside Thor's head. To use a sling ring you have to visualize whats at the other end. She's not visualizing whatever giant part of Thor's anatomy she's gonna target, especially not the second time she uses it. I'd find it hard to believe Strange could do it let alone this newbie. As for her being flash fast. Show it. Show a single flash level reaction feat. She had a stand off with a normal human and couldnt beat her to the trigger. Thats not flash fast.

Tyrannon's proportionially teeny arms are still too big to fit through a boom tube.

Ultron is tiny, and if the best feat for his heat blades is cutting a dudes arm off, then he's doing nothing to the thousands of tons of irradiated super flesh covering Tyranno. I wouldn't bet on regular 6' tall thor to beat a godzilla tier kaiju either.



You realize Bruce is IN the hulkbuster armor and also trapped in the rock by Thanos right? Thanos phases people into stuff, but it doesn't hurt them. Why would it hurt Thor? He will trap Thor in rock and be blindsided when that entombent does not work.


The autoshield may stop bullets but thats not particularly impressive. Quicksilver can barrel through and shield bash. All those extra abilities Haller has are cool, but they just make him smarter and better at multitasking presumably but he's still gotta find a guy he's never met. Killing Hela is undoable as shes indestructible and made of incredibly tough stuff. Merging her to rocks does nothing to her.

How is Purity with TK amping not stronger than a Purity without it? Normal people used it to fly, and crash through buildings while falling from Airplane heights. Purity who already has multiple energy powers would easily know how to amp herself up like those kids but better. Also her Sling Ring teleportation is easy because Thor is huge and she ports outside his giant ear and flies into it as said in my strat. Also for speed feats I can show you 2 dozen times when Flash is hit by normal people so I guess Flash isn't that fast?

Boomtubes are made from a Motherbox that terraforms Planets in minutes, so size isn't a problem. Add in Ultrons upgrades and the Motherboxs unlimited energy generation and size is just a number and calculations away from teleportation.

The Hulkbuster Armor is huge(it fit over Iron Man's armor) and Bruce is tiny compared to it so his body didn't get hurt. Unless you are claiming that he Hulk'd out while inside the Armor it's obvious that Bruce was never touched.

Ultron has strength to hurt Thor before upgrades, and we have feats for Extremis from the Iron Man movie, and Vibranium>a piece Godzilla scale or Eyes.

Quicksilver can't fly and his targets are 500 ft above and away with sheilds and bullet timing feats. And in the Kitchen scene we see him throw objects at full speed that only KOs a guard, so nothing suggests that his throws are unblockable or unstoppable and both auto Sheilds and regular sheilding would work.

Also NZT is FAR more than just a random IQ boost. Hyperrsenses, photographic memory, perfect recollection, super computer like computations and analysis in real time, complete control over your body on Taskmaster level that grants expert fighting skills from karate movies and every fight you have ever seen on TV and in the end future telling/pre cog. You are very much underestimating David here.

Thanos handles Hela as written and she can't handle or counter his Space Stone/Gravity powers on top of his own physical might.

[KJS]

Five days have passed on this one, discussion over.

Poll to be posted in a couple of days.