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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    Roy Thomas himself noted that it was odd how he created the Vision at the very same time the writer he had grown up admiring (and who had become a dear friend) created the android Red Tornado. Roy and Reddie even have the same initials, RT. "The Stormy Return of the Red Tornado," JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA 64 (August 1968) went on sale June 13, 1968; "Behold . . . the Vision," THE AVENGERS 57 (October 1968) went on sale August 8, 1968. Both of these crimson androids are also revivals of different non-android characters with the same names, from the early days of DC and Marvel.
    What a coincidence .

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    Oh...

    Green Arrow/Black Canary and Hawkeye/Mockingbird.

    And both X-Men and Doom Patrol had a Brotherhood of Evil.
    And Changeling at both companies were affiliated with X-Men and Doom Patrol.
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    The Guardian and The Sentinel and Captain America. Even Jack Kirby couldn't tell them apart. Here's a Golden Age panel in which Kirby accidentally refers to Jim "Guardian" Harper as if he were Steve "Captain America" Rogers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    What a coincidence .
    Even stranger is that both the original Vision and Red Tornado made their first appearance in November 1940 cover dated comics (Ma appeared well before this but she didn't put on the red union suit until then)--MARVEL MYSTERY COMICS 13 and ALL-AMERICAN COMICS 20, on sale September 17th and 19th. Not that the original characters were anything alike--it's the fate of their future successors that links them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    Even stranger is that both the original Vision and Red Tornado made their first appearance in November 1940 cover dated comics (Ma appeared well before this but she didn't put on the red union suit until then)--MARVEL MYSTERY COMICS 13 and ALL-AMERICAN COMICS 20, on sale September 17th and 19th. Not that the original characters were anything alike--it's the fate of their future successors that links them.
    It is almost destiny-like .

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    one could also add the "weddings" that didn't happen to the list and both were similarly broken after the close female confidant of the bride planted doubts in the bride's mind and led to the male groom becoming a 'broken' character. at least dick didn't take advantage of the occasion to hitch up with Kory or Barbara like gambit and rogue did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneandonly View Post
    one could also add the "weddings" that didn't happen to the list and both were similarly broken after the close female confidant of the bride planted doubts in the bride's mind and led to the male groom becoming a 'broken' character. at least dick didn't take advantage of the occasion to hitch up with Kory or Barbara like gambit and rogue did.
    Although he did sleep with Barbara after coming over to tell her about his wedding with Kori...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Although he did sleep with Barbara after coming over to tell her about his wedding with Kori...
    that dick! such a smoothie. lol. yeah I know but at least he didn't do it on Bruce's wedding day or anything though it is reprehensible. gambit in that aspect seemed particularly callous taking advantage like that while dick only got a bullet through his brains for his attempting to support bruce in his time of trial.

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    It's funny that Ralph Dibny, the World Famous Elongated Man, made his first appearance in THE FLASH 112 (April-May 1960) and by THE FLASH 119 (March 1961) was shown to have married the lovely Sue Dearbon (with the Flash as his best man). Then FANTASTIC FOUR No. 1 (November 1961) introduced us to Reed Richards and Sue Storm, who would eventually also marry. Ralph could stretch, Reed could stretch--and they both married women named Sue.

    Of course, FANTASTIC FOUR was a hodge-podge of "homages" to past comics from several publishers. You could argue that both Ralph and Reed were patterned after Plastic Man (but given Reed's dour personality, he only seems to have got Eel's powers and not his personality). Fantastic and Plastic sound a lot alike. But calling Reed Mr. Fantastic sounds more like a tribute to Mr. Terrific. The Thing pays tribute to all the Marvel/Atlas monsters--and monsters from other publishers, like the Heap. Johnny is inspired by the original Human Torch. And Sue has the powers of several invisibles--including the H.G. Wells character and Invisible Kid (Lyle Norg, who debuted in 1960). And the cover for the first issue, by Jack Kirby and George Klein, was modelled after the cover for THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD 28 (February-March 1960), by Mike Sekowsky and Murphy Anderson, where the Justice League of America made their first bow.

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    Default The Suspicious Coincidences of The Big Two

    The Suspicious Coincidences of The Big Two
    One of Stan Lee's most celebrated and cited lines.


    Edit: ^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    One of Stan Lee's most celebrated and cited lines.



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    To be completley fair the full line is:

    Because of these great powers, your speed and strength, your X-ray vision and super-sensitive hearing, you have a great responsibility.

    Uncle Ben just abreviated it.
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    Robin and Bucky replaced their mentors at roughly the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearman View Post
    Robin and Bucky replaced their mentors at roughly the same time.
    So 1940?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    So 1940?

    Imaginary tales don't count.

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