All because he wrote HydraCap which I guess automatically mean's he prefers fascist Cap (which just proves they all didn't bother to actually read it...)Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg
It is still so hilarious to me in hindsight how much crap Spencer got during that period, both for what he said online and his books by two completely opposite groups of the people, and the thing that made everyone come together to forgive him, was putting Peter and MJ back together lol
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06-07-2019, 01:07 PM #31Astonishing Member
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Most of the stuff he's done on the book so far have been addressing or getting to stuff fans have wanted addressed (Peter and MJ's relationship, Black Cat's character derailment and not knowing who Peter is, Kraven's death being undone). Originally Posted by Inversed
It's an interesting contrast with his Cap runs and even Slott's run.
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06-07-2019, 01:31 PM #33Extraordinary Member
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I am probably one of the few people who liked Secret Empire besides the MCU Captain America doesn’t get my attention in comics. So when it was going on I was invested but I totally knew he was going to be back to normal at the end just like how Peter comes back in Superior. I think it was blown out of proportion by fans but then again how many people actually had a problem instead of it being the loud ones being heard the most? Originally Posted by Inversed
"He's pure power and doesn't even know it. He's the best of us."-Matt Murdock
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06-07-2019, 01:54 PM #34The Superior One
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Really, talk about stupidity on full display. Originally Posted by Inversed
"So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."
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06-07-2019, 04:44 PM #35Astonishing Member
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I'm moreso referring to the reception after the immediate release of Issue 1. Of course now he's continued to do things in the book that people have been really enjoying, but even just that one change swung people off the Spencer hate train so fast it was kind of funny. Originally Posted by Frontier
I think the issue is that the problem got blown SO out of proportion that everyone heard about it beyond the ones who actually read it and took things at face value. And so they end up completely missing the point about what works so well at the book, that Hydra Cap really is his own character and person, with his own unique backstory that is explained through the course of the run. It's effectively a really elaborate villain origin story and done really well, and I'm glad someone like Coates recognized that and is keeping him as Cap's main nemesis. Originally Posted by Jman27
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06-07-2019, 05:20 PM #36Moderator
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It just goes to show you how many people love Peter/MJ Originally Posted by Inversed
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06-07-2019, 11:42 PM #37Astonishing Member
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from what i understand, some of the negativity was from non comic book readers who were baited by their own clicks Originally Posted by Celgress
troo fan or death
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06-08-2019, 12:37 AM #38Astonishing Member
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it has precedent right? i’m sure there’s been plenty of reveals of “he” characters as “she”...though less the other way round Originally Posted by Russ840
troo fan or death
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06-08-2019, 01:17 AM #39Astonishing Member
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Which clone are you talking about? Originally Posted by Arsenal
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06-08-2019, 01:45 AM #40Astonishing Member
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the one that was ben reilly (but wasn’t) Originally Posted by Ursalink
the one found in the smokestack (but wasn’t)
the one that-troo fan or death
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06-08-2019, 07:44 AM #41Mighty Member
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Originally Posted by boots
That’s Kaine, right?
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06-08-2019, 08:14 AM #42Tyrant Sun User
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What? Spider Skull? Originally Posted by boots
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06-08-2019, 08:50 AM #43Astonishing Member
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I'm at a loss as to who it could be. Is Spencer going to try and redeem Spidercide as a character? It seems close enough to Peter that it has to be some evil kind of clone. Thankfully Ben is good again.
Honestly, every other non-clone character I pick just doesn't fit. But at the same time, the evil clone thing was already done very recently (and not very well, at that).
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06-08-2019, 08:52 AM #44Astonishing Member
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Sorry, but that would be the worst twist in the world. Even worse than making it Uncle Ben. Originally Posted by Yvonmukluk
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06-08-2019, 09:01 AM #45BANNED
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frankly it could turn out to be piss poor and shitting over spidey mythos if he does portray Ben or may as the character but then given his controversial hydra cap arc he doesn't feel any essential aspect of the particular mythos is sacred so it may turn out to be another poor piece of writing from him but let's hope he has learnt his lesson and treads more carefully now in creating controversial arcs or he may end up being thrown out from the office.
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