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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    The X is the big thing in the name, not Men. X-Force or X-Factor could probably be as successful. And a lot of the XCU movies without the X or Men were more successful. So I don't really buy "Men" being something that can't be changed
    Weren't those just solo films starring Wolverine and Deadpool (not even a mutant) which still referred to the characters as "X-Men" in the film anyways (Deadpool visiting the mansion looking for Colossus, X-23's comic books showing the title on the cover as X-Men.) "New Mutants" certainly wasn't more successful than the other films.

    If they DID drop it, DC should snag up the X-Men name as retaliation for Marvel stealing "Captain Marvel" away from Billy Batson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegeta View Post
    Weren't those just solo films starring Wolverine and Deadpool (not even a mutant) which still referred to the characters as "X-Men" in the film anyways (Deadpool visiting the mansion looking for Colossus, X-23's comic books showing the title on the cover as X-Men.) "New Mutants" certainly wasn't more successful than the other films.

    If they DID drop it, DC should snag up the X-Men name as retaliation for Marvel stealing "Captain Marvel" away from Billy Batson.
    That's kinda my point. The X-name doesn't somehow sell. It's the individual characters. New Mutants failed because it supposedly wasn't good and got delayed too many times. My point is, the "Men" in "X-Men" probably isn't something drawing the general public to these movies.

    And I don't think Marvel is giving up the copyright. Besides, Billy Batson wasn't originally DC to begin with.

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    Yes. It should be xxx-men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cane_danko View Post
    Yes. It should be xxx-men.
    Triple X as in Vin Diesel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Also “XPeople” is already another term for the team on alternate Earth, so the point is, for all intents and purposes, moot.
    Not really. That’s an alternate universe, possibly one that has appeared all of one time. How many people even know of this universe much less this team? I’d wager not a whole lot much less enough to make any kind of impact. X-Men meanwhile is a name that even casuals know above anything else within the X-related things.
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    Yes. It should be xxx-men.
    They gonna convince the world to embrace mutantkind through kinky pornos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    That's kinda my point. The X-name doesn't somehow sell. It's the individual characters. New Mutants failed because it supposedly wasn't good and got delayed too many times. My point is, the "Men" in "X-Men" probably isn't something drawing the general public to these movies.

    And I don't think Marvel is giving up the copyright. Besides, Billy Batson wasn't originally DC to begin with.
    I think the general audience associate the characters collectively as "X-Men" because that's what the films and franchise are named.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I think the general audience associate the characters collectively as "X-Men" because that's what the films and franchise are named.
    The general audience has also shown it'll care more about movies without the name X-Men if they're better than the ones with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    Not really. That’s an alternate universe, possibly one that has appeared all of one time. How many people even know of this universe much less this team? I’d wager not a whole lot much less enough to make any kind of impact. X-Men meanwhile is a name that even casuals know above anything else within the X-related things.
    Wasn't X-People from MC2? That universe has definitely appeared more than once!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    The X is the big thing in the name, not Men. X-Force or X-Factor could probably be as successful..
    Zero chance, because X-force and X-factor are spin-off from X-men and any familiarity comes from it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    The general audience has also shown it'll care more about movies without the name X-Men if they're better than the ones with it.
    Only after they had 15 years of brand recognition from films. That's like arguing Black Panther would be as successful as it was, to the point of out-grossing other Avenger films (in the US), if it was released before the Avengers or the MCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Alpha View Post
    Zero chance, because X-force and X-factor are spin-off from X-men and any familiarity comes from it.



    Only after they had 15 years of brand recognition from films. That's like arguing Black Panther would be as successful as it was, to the point of out-grossing other Avenger films (in the US), if it was released before the Avengers or the MCU.
    That's not what I'm arguing. Of course this wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't called X-Men back then. People are talking about changing it now, after they've become popular

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    That's kinda my point. The X-name doesn't somehow sell. It's the individual characters.
    Not sure how you came to the conclusion that the X-name "doesn't sell," X3 and DoFP still made more money than Logan and the Wolverine, and Deadpool isn't a member of the X-Men or even a mutant. Spider-man merchandise outsells the Avengers by a ridiculous margin, but that doesn't mean the Avengers name is poison in the toy aisle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    That's not what I'm arguing. Of course this wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't called X-Men back then. People are talking about changing it now, after they've become popular
    Changing the franchise flagship name isn't gonna sell well by different names. Comics have been pretty much evident towards about that. Where the audience is far more aware of the children of the atom than cinema.
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    They might have the team not be named the X-Men in universe and have the movie named X-Men, or vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegeta View Post
    Not sure how you came to the conclusion that the X-name "doesn't sell," X3 and DoFP still made more money than Logan and the Wolverine, and Deadpool isn't a member of the X-Men or even a mutant. Spider-man merchandise outsells the Avengers by a ridiculous margin, but that doesn't mean the Avengers name is poison in the toy aisle.
    All I'm saying is the 'Men' part doesn't ensure success, which is what some people seem to think

    Quote Originally Posted by Vishop View Post
    Changing the franchise flagship name isn't gonna sell well by different names. Comics have been pretty much evident towards about that. Where the audience is far more aware of the children of the atom than cinema.
    You think X-Force couldn't be sold to the ga with the MCU behind it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    That's kinda my point. The X-name doesn't somehow sell. It's the individual characters. New Mutants failed because it supposedly wasn't good and got delayed too many times. My point is, the "Men" in "X-Men" probably isn't something drawing the general public to these movies.

    And I don't think Marvel is giving up the copyright. Besides, Billy Batson wasn't originally DC to begin with.
    New Mutants Movie failed because it was a shitty concept from start to finish that had pretty much nothing to do with the storylines,characters or even the concepts from the comic it was supposedly based on.

    For some reason people like you seem unable to understand this.
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